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Seems lost many elements in upper area.
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Yes.
Cengkrong luk lima. |
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So Alan, this is normal for this type of keris? No ganga I noticed.
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Yes, form is correct, but sometimes they will have a gonjo, sometimes the gonjo might be iras, ie, just marked on the blade, not fitted separately.
The ones with no gonjo have sometimes had a gonjo fitted & it has been lost, other times they appear to have never had a gonjo. |
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they seem to exist with and without a Ganja.
The dress and hilt are Madurese and I think that, once cleaned and stained, the blade may, possibly, show as being pamor adeg rambut |
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In my opinion, though not as experienced as others, the kris you show is South Sumatran Kris .
I have never seen that particular dhapur featured here (but others with more experience may be familiar with them) The " ganja" appears to be not really separated from the blade with a " symbolic" separation Last edited by milandro; 11th September 2024 at 11:00 AM. |
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To answer your question Hugh, i would say no, this last keris you show is not Cengkrong. It clearly has a gandik (Cengkrong do not) and the keris is gonjo iras, meaning that the blade is all one piece without a separate gonjo, though it does have an incised line to mark out a gonjo area.
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I look at this and can't help but wonder if it started life as ganjo iras or is this its second incarnation?
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