GINUNTING

tanaruz · 17th December 2023, 11:09 PM

Hi,

The seller of this blade hails from Taytay (Rizal). At first glance, my father's impression is that this is a Rizal blade- but having what type of blade profile? A panday(renowned blacksmith from Rizal)-told my father that this is not a blade normally made by bladesmiths of Rizal (with the exception that a buyer would want to commission such a blade).

It does not fit on any blade profile on Rizal blades he has in his collection. This may be (in his honest opinion), a talibong with a ginunting blade profile.

The blade profile, the leather on the scabbard's throat and the type of scabbard points to that direction. But the hilt, at first glance, is typical Rizal. Possibility: the hilt was a later replacement (made of horn) and since the original owner in the late 1945 (the son of the original owner made mention) lives in Taytay- the pandays adopted the Rizal hilt type. Or, he said that this was its original hilt- as some of his collection of talibongs have similar hilt designs.

Feliz Navidad.

Yves

chmorshuutz · 18th December 2023, 10:49 AM

Sinampalok, but more slender than usual. Hilt and scabbard is also Rizal style.

Ian · 19th December 2023, 03:06 AM

Hi Yves and chmorshuutz,

Interesting sword. The blade profile has some similarity to both the ginunting and sinampalok, as you each mention. Its width is narrower than usual examples of those blade types. A custom order seems the most likely explanation.

Agree with both of you that this is typical Rizal dress for the hilt and scabbard.

17th December 2023, 11:09 PM	#1
tanaruz Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 267	GINUNTING Hi, The seller of this blade hails from Taytay (Rizal). At first glance, my father's impression is that this is a Rizal blade- but having what type of blade profile? A panday(renowned blacksmith from Rizal)-told my father that this is not a blade normally made by bladesmiths of Rizal (with the exception that a buyer would want to commission such a blade). It does not fit on any blade profile on Rizal blades he has in his collection. This may be (in his honest opinion), a talibong with a ginunting blade profile. The blade profile, the leather on the scabbard's throat and the type of scabbard points to that direction. But the hilt, at first glance, is typical Rizal. Possibility: the hilt was a later replacement (made of horn) and since the original owner in the late 1945 (the son of the original owner made mention) lives in Taytay- the pandays adopted the Rizal hilt type. Or, he said that this was its original hilt- as some of his collection of talibongs have similar hilt designs. Feliz Navidad. Yves Attached Images

18th December 2023, 10:49 AM	#2
chmorshuutz Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 54	Sinampalok, but more slender than usual. Hilt and scabbard is also Rizal style.

19th December 2023, 03:06 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,203	Hi Yves and chmorshuutz, Interesting sword. The blade profile has some similarity to both the ginunting and sinampalok, as you each mention. Its width is narrower than usual examples of those blade types. A custom order seems the most likely explanation. Agree with both of you that this is typical Rizal dress for the hilt and scabbard.