bali kris with bugis sheath or...?

[ronpakis]

Gentleman,

Who can tell what were looking at? This was sold recently on a dutch auction site. Looks like a nice balinese blade, but is this perhaps a bit to nice? Or is it the real thing?

Greetings Ron

ps: not mine

[Sajen]

I think it is a Malay blade in original dress but with Bali handle and uwer. I have seen this keris as well and was very unsure about it since I have never seen something similar before. Maybe one of our Peninsula friends will be able to enlighten us.

Regards,

Detlef

[Henk]

I don't know why and maybe i'm completely wrong, but i get the feeling by this blade made in China.

Balinese ukiran and uwer. Sheath could be Bugis.

[Rick]

This style of blade and gonjo are something I have not seen before .

A Swiss Cheese gonjo ?!?

[ronpakis]

but what it really is? I was going to make a small chance but the price went pretty high pretty quick.

gr Ron

[Sajen]

There have been some other keris from the same seller amongst others a very nice old Cirebon keris which went as well very high and quick. Like the others I haven't seen a blade like this before but my feeling tell me that this is a genuine old blade of maybe Peninsula origin. But I have been and still be very unsure about the quality of the blade since the naga sinuosity isn't very well executed in my humple opinion. But I am sure that the buyer know for what he give such a high price.

Regards,

Detlef

[napoleon]

hello i had something similar ,in the sense that it had a little buddist lion where your dragon appears, on this one it was overlaid with gold,and had been etched many times ,im not saying this one is new,but doesnt seem to have the right look to it,for what its worth

[David]

Originally Posted by napoleon

hello i had something similar ,in the sense that it had a little buddist lion where your dragon appears, on this one it was overlaid with gold,and had been etched many times ,im not saying this one is new,but doesnt seem to have the right look to it,for what its worth

Sounds like what you had was a a keris with a "singo" (lion). The creature on Ron's example is probably more correctly a "naga" (serpent) than a dragon, a common element on many keris. A keris doesn't need to be etched many times to be authentically old (could depend on when it was collected) and of course in a tradition that goes back a millenium there are many different levels of what could be considered "old". I think we already established that this keris is an odd man out, so to speak, but that in all probability it is authentic.