Standing Keris

ganjawulung · 18th May 2007, 07:41 PM

Hi All,

Keris is amazing: asymetric in form, but has a good balance. I've tried many times to make some symetric blade to stand on its sheath, but always fail. But many kerises can stand. Not because of magical or spiritual reason, but rather of their good balance...

Some Indonesian people like to buy kerises which can stand. On their point, or on their hilt. If a keris can stand (not on a sheath like this), but on its hilts, some people are willing to spent millions and millions rupiahs. Just to be able to buy the "standing kerises". A little bit crazy...

David · 18th May 2007, 08:19 PM

Looks like a nice keris whether it can stand or not.

Yes, many times people attribute the standing keris to some magickal principle or power of the practitioner when it is really just a matter of good balance and patience.

I personal would not base buy a keris on whether or not it will stand, but i must admit...it's a pretty cool trick!

ganjawulung · 19th May 2007, 03:22 AM

You are right, David,

This one is a nice keris, dhapur Sengkelat (of course 13 luks) with a "moustache", golden moustache like Charlie Chaplin's moustache, or Hitler's moustache. We calll such gold ornament as "panji wilis". Nicely carved, with very small floral carving. Tangguh nom-noman (every keris from Mataram era and after, we call it "youngsters" or nom-noman, nem-neman althour it was made more than 250 years ago..

BluErf · 19th May 2007, 07:13 AM

Hi Ganjawulung,

We balance kerises every year during the Rangsang Rias event held in celebration of Muharram every year. Hopefully some of the collectors who would pay millions of rupiah for a "standing keris" would grace our occasion.

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php

ganjawulung · 19th May 2007, 07:43 AM

BluErf,

Wow, really fantastic! What some Indonesian people want to buy is standing keris on its hilt (without sheath), or on its point (without sheath too). Upon a glass surface... The later is, more expensive. Once I've heard, one miliar (1.000.000.000) rupiahs! But of course, I've never seen with my own eyes, anybody who wants to pay such amount of money..

Anyway, it's nice to see the "balance tradition" in Singapore. See, the asymetrical keris has a good balance, isn't it?

Alam Shah · 19th May 2007, 08:17 AM

The picture that BluErf had linked and posted, had 3 members of this forum.
BluErf, standing in white observing..., DAHenkel squatting balancing a keris and myself (the fat one) opposite Dave.

Another older picture from the 2nd Rangsang Rias (2005), click here.

Boedhi Adhitya · 19th May 2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung

BluErf,

Wow, really fantastic! What some Indonesian people want to buy is standing keris on its hilt (without sheath), or on its point (without sheath too). Upon a glass surface... The later is, more expensive. Once I've heard, one miliar (1.000.000.000) rupiahs! But of course, I've never seen with my own eyes, anybody who wants to pay such amount of money..

Anyway, it's nice to see the "balance tradition" in Singapore. See, the asymetrical keris has a good balance, isn't it?

To make your blade standing on it's hilt without resting on it's sheath is easy. You just have to make a "specially designed" hilt, that is, a hilt with hollow in it's lower part, then fill it with Mercury (air raksa) and make sure you put a thin and light blade on the hilt. Then you got standing keris on it's hilt.

So, the-standing-keris-on-it's-point's prices is still 1 billion ? I thought it's already rise up, as I've already heard this rumor a long time ago, and as all other thing's price is already risen up, it should risen up too, right?

I have a story regarding the standing keris on it's point. Once, a close friend of mine accompanied his friend, a 'kiyai' who could made kerises to stand, any keris, to meet a 'keris broker' who looking for a standing keris. Once they met, the kiyai started the shows with just an ordinary old keris, on the glass table, and on any other surfaces as the broker wished to. As the show succeeded, the broker stand still and seem to think for a while. Then suddenly he said "Could you make the keris stand and walking around ?" Then the shows was over.

18th May 2007, 07:41 PM	#1
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Standing Keris Hi All, Keris is amazing: asymetric in form, but has a good balance. I've tried many times to make some symetric blade to stand on its sheath, but always fail. But many kerises can stand. Not because of magical or spiritual reason, but rather of their good balance... Some Indonesian people like to buy kerises which can stand. On their point, or on their hilt. If a keris can stand (not on a sheath like this), but on its hilts, some people are willing to spent millions and millions rupiahs. Just to be able to buy the "standing kerises". A little bit crazy... Attached Images

19th May 2007, 03:22 AM	#3
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Sengkelat Panji Wilis Ganjawulung You are right, David, This one is a nice keris, dhapur Sengkelat (of course 13 luks) with a "moustache", golden moustache like Charlie Chaplin's moustache, or Hitler's moustache. We calll such gold ornament as "panji wilis". Nicely carved, with very small floral carving. Tangguh nom-noman (every keris from Mataram era and after, we call it "youngsters" or nom-noman, nem-neman althour it was made more than 250 years ago..

19th May 2007, 07:13 AM	#4
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hi Ganjawulung, We balance kerises every year during the Rangsang Rias event held in celebration of Muharram every year. Hopefully some of the collectors who would pay millions of rupiah for a "standing keris" would grace our occasion. http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...view_photo.php Attached Images

19th May 2007, 08:17 AM	#6
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Keris Balancing... The picture that BluErf had linked and posted, had 3 members of this forum. BluErf, standing in white observing..., DAHenkel squatting balancing a keris and myself (the fat one) opposite Dave. Another older picture from the 2nd Rangsang Rias (2005), click here. Last edited by Alam Shah; 19th May 2007 at 02:11 PM.

18th May 2007, 08:19 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Looks like a nice keris whether it can stand or not. Yes, many times people attribute the standing keris to some magickal principle or power of the practitioner when it is really just a matter of good balance and patience. I personal would not base buy a keris on whether or not it will stand, but i must admit...it's a pretty cool trick!

19th May 2007, 07:43 AM	#5
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	BluErf, Wow, really fantastic! What some Indonesian people want to buy is standing keris on its hilt (without sheath), or on its point (without sheath too). Upon a glass surface... The later is, more expensive. Once I've heard, one miliar (1.000.000.000) rupiahs! But of course, I've never seen with my own eyes, anybody who wants to pay such amount of money.. Anyway, it's nice to see the "balance tradition" in Singapore. See, the asymetrical keris has a good balance, isn't it?