hidden room 2 - captured arms

B.I · 17th June 2005, 02:29 AM

another hidden room in venice. not a single weapon mentioned in any guide, but i was steered their by a friend. as with everything else, not much is in english and cameras are forbidden.
i never got round to chasing this up, but i am assuming that with the quantity of early turkish weapons, the may have all been taken at the wars against the ottoman emire in the 16thC. this is the civic museum, ie the museum that displays artifact and history of the town, and so am inclined to think that these weapons were not, nor ever were a 'collection'.
the turkish armour and weapons are all within this time period. i wonder if all the other weapons are as well.
the yataghans and kris may reveal clues (not my field so please offer opinions)
if these pieces could possibly be of the period, then the presence of this collection would make sense.
funny what you can stumble across in the strangest of places. i had no idea what to expect when i went there, just having been told there were some 'interesting' weapons! my passion for ottoman armour was well and truly fed. the cane shields are exceptionally rare and to find this many outside the topkapi was breathtaking.

B.I · 17th June 2005, 02:32 AM

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B.I · 17th June 2005, 02:32 AM

sorry andrew. not a dha in sight

ariel · 17th June 2005, 03:38 AM

Somehow, I know where the discussion is going to be headed: A KRIS!

Andrew · 17th June 2005, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by B.I

sorry andrew. not a dha in sight

lol. That's okay, Brian. Not every museum is perfect.

Thanks for sharing these.

Lew · 17th June 2005, 05:23 AM

Hi Guys

I find it interesting that there are Stars of David on Islamic armor? Can anyone explain?

Lew

Berkley · 17th June 2005, 05:41 AM

The hexagram in Islamic art is not referrred to as the Star of David but rather as the Khatam Suleiman, or King Solomon's Seal. Click on the third picture from the bottom in the link to see its use as an illustration in a Muslim book of prayers and excerpts from the Quran c. 1761

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B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	hidden room 2 - captured arms another hidden room in venice. not a single weapon mentioned in any guide, but i was steered their by a friend. as with everything else, not much is in english and cameras are forbidden. i never got round to chasing this up, but i am assuming that with the quantity of early turkish weapons, the may have all been taken at the wars against the ottoman emire in the 16thC. this is the civic museum, ie the museum that displays artifact and history of the town, and so am inclined to think that these weapons were not, nor ever were a 'collection'. the turkish armour and weapons are all within this time period. i wonder if all the other weapons are as well. the yataghans and kris may reveal clues (not my field so please offer opinions) if these pieces could possibly be of the period, then the presence of this collection would make sense. funny what you can stumble across in the strangest of places. i had no idea what to expect when i went there, just having been told there were some 'interesting' weapons! my passion for ottoman armour was well and truly fed. the cane shields are exceptionally rare and to find this many outside the topkapi was breathtaking. Attached Images Last edited by B.I; 17th June 2005 at 02:42 AM.

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Berkley Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austin, Texas USA Posts: 257	The hexagram in Islamic art is not referrred to as the Star of David but rather as the Khatam Suleiman, or King Solomon's Seal. Click on the third picture from the bottom in the link to see its use as an illustration in a Muslim book of prayers and excerpts from the Quran c. 1761