Possible Katipunan Era Dagger

Robert · 15th November 2012, 01:14 AM

For discussion is this very nice dagger that I had the good fortune to be able to acquire
from one of our forum members. I believe this to be a Katipunan era item based mostly on
the shape of the guard. The triangle was a favorite symbol of the Katipunan and was eventually
even incorporated into the Philippine national flag. I have also been told that it was believed
to be a talismanic shape and that many of the talismans of the Katipunan were triangular.
All of the fittings are made of brass except for the one copper wire that is wrapped around the hilt.
While most of the hilt decorations from this time would use one solid wire and one twisted wire,
two twisted wires or even one flat strip and a twisted wire this hilt has two plain round wires,
one brass and one copper. I am not sure that these are original to this piece or later replacements
for damaged ones but if they are replacements they are old ones and will be left "as is" because they
are now part of the daggers history. The hilt itself is made of bone and unfortunately the very end of the
blade has some bending that will be straightened at a later date. As always any thoughts or information
that anyone has and would like to post would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Robert

Battara · 15th November 2012, 03:23 AM

I helped the seller identify this piece for the same reasons you mention. Even years after the Philippine-American War, say in WWII. The tiangle was important and even used by Filipino guerillas in their 3 man fighting teams in the jungle.

Anyway congratulations!

Robert · 15th November 2012, 04:32 AM

Hello Jose, and thank you for your thoughts on this. I have one more question for you "or anyone else that would like to hazard an opinion" on this dagger. What would be your thoughts on its age? I would place it in the late 19th century but, I like everyone else I always hope the items that I collect are the older examples.

Thank you again.

Regards,
Robert

Battara · 15th November 2012, 10:08 PM

Well it is not technically Katipunan but if our thoughts are true it would be 1st Philippine Republic and would date to the turn of the 20th century, say 1899-1901.

15th November 2012, 01:14 AM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Possible Katipunan Era Dagger For discussion is this very nice dagger that I had the good fortune to be able to acquire from one of our forum members. I believe this to be a Katipunan era item based mostly on the shape of the guard. The triangle was a favorite symbol of the Katipunan and was eventually even incorporated into the Philippine national flag. I have also been told that it was believed to be a talismanic shape and that many of the talismans of the Katipunan were triangular. All of the fittings are made of brass except for the one copper wire that is wrapped around the hilt. While most of the hilt decorations from this time would use one solid wire and one twisted wire, two twisted wires or even one flat strip and a twisted wire this hilt has two plain round wires, one brass and one copper. I am not sure that these are original to this piece or later replacements for damaged ones but if they are replacements they are old ones and will be left "as is" because they are now part of the daggers history. The hilt itself is made of bone and unfortunately the very end of the blade has some bending that will be straightened at a later date. As always any thoughts or information that anyone has and would like to post would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Robert Attached Images

15th November 2012, 04:32 AM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Jose, and thank you for your thoughts on this. I have one more question for you "or anyone else that would like to hazard an opinion" on this dagger. What would be your thoughts on its age? I would place it in the late 19th century but, I like everyone else I always hope the items that I collect are the older examples. Thank you again. Regards, Robert Last edited by Robert Coleman; 15th November 2012 at 05:21 AM.

15th November 2012, 03:23 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	I helped the seller identify this piece for the same reasons you mention. Even years after the Philippine-American War, say in WWII. The tiangle was important and even used by Filipino guerillas in their 3 man fighting teams in the jungle. Anyway congratulations!

15th November 2012, 10:08 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	Well it is not technically Katipunan but if our thoughts are true it would be 1st Philippine Republic and would date to the turn of the 20th century, say 1899-1901.