Do I have a Garab?

Ferguson · 20th January 2014, 02:02 AM

I bought this "PHILIPPINE JUNGLE MACHETE WW11" on Ebay for a pittance. It's 24" long, and tapers from .388" (3/8", or 9.86mm) at the hilt. The hilt is nicely carved kamagong? Where the hilt is normally wrapped with rattan, it has an old leather covering held on with a brass strap. The blade is beveled on the right side and flat on the other. The beveled side shows nice laminations. The flat side of the blade etches almost completely dark. I was completely stunned to find the laminated blade.

Below are some poor pictures taken inside tonight.
Thanks for looking. Comments welcome!
Steve

Ferguson · 20th January 2014, 02:14 AM

Auction pictures.

VANDOO · 20th January 2014, 02:40 AM

YEP! A VERY NICE GARAB/ TALIBON IT IS UNUSUAL TO SEE THE ETCHED BLADE SHOWING THE FORGEING ON THESE. BUT I WOULD NOT BE SURPRIZED IF QUITE A FEW HAVE THE WATERED STEEL BLADES THAT ARE NOT SHOWING. A GOOD SIZED ONE WITH VERY NICE CARVING AND PATINA ON THE HANDLE. CONGRADULATIONS.

Robert · 20th January 2014, 02:43 AM

Yes, that is a very nice garab you have there Steve and now I know who it was that outbid me on it.

I thought my initial bid on it was much higher, so from now on I need to pay more attention to the emails sent by my bidding service when they come. Wonderful carving on the hilt and a good laminate blade to boot. The leather wrap is quit different though and I thought (when looking at the original auction photos) that it might have been a metal wrap of some kind. Anyway, my sincere congratulations to you on this very nice addition to your collection.

Best,
Robert

David · 20th January 2014, 04:37 AM

Wow Steve, that's a very fine catch!

Sajen · 20th January 2014, 09:35 AM

Congratulations Steve! That's the second one in short time with laminated blade! Nice that the beautiful carved handle isn't broken.

Regards,

Detlef

CharlesS · 20th January 2014, 01:32 PM

Great example Steve, and one of the finest blades on one I have seen. Congrats!

Battara · 20th January 2014, 03:42 PM

Steve I agree with what everyone said. congratulations on a great piece!

On the one hand it would have been great to have the scabbard.

On the other hand I have seen on very rare occasion garab/talibon that have metal (brass or silver) on the hilts. The carving is superb and it has brass on the hilt, a truly rare variant (never mind the laminated blade).

Ferguson · 20th January 2014, 05:17 PM

Thank all of you gentlemen for your comments. I feel extremely lucky to have picked up this piece. Looking at the recent pictures of your wonderful Garab, made me more attuned to the Visayan pieces. I now have Tenegre, Binangon, bolo from Iloilo, and now the Garab. Maybe a Visayan family portrait soon!

Battara, I have a feeling that the brass strip and leather covering was a repair by someone to replace the missing rattan covering. But it doesn't look recent.

Thanks again,

Steve

kino · 21st January 2014, 05:01 AM

What a handsome sword. Good job on the clean up. Congrats on a good catch.

kai · 23rd January 2014, 10:04 AM

Hello Steve,

Could you also show the reverse side of the blade, please?

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Where the hilt is normally wrapped with rattan, it has an old leather covering held on with a brass strap.

The leather does look aged but doesn't seem to show the expected wear from actual usage. I'd hazard the guess that this was a repair attempt, possibly by someone out of the originating culture. Neat piece regardless - congrats!

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The blade is beveled on the right side and flat on the other. The beveled side shows nice laminations. The flat side of the blade etches almost completely dark.

This is the usual construction with the thin steel plate forged to the opposite side of the blade later receiving the bevel: buttered slice of bread rather than a sandwich.

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I was completely stunned to find the laminated blade.

I believe that many, if not most, antique Visayan blades will prove to be laminated if more people would care to check!

Not all will show such a bold contrast though (e. g. I have a laminated blade that is a pig to etch resulting in only faint laminations on the beveled side; need to try again).

Regards,
Kai

kai · 23rd January 2014, 10:10 AM

Hello Jose,

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On the other hand I have seen on very rare occasion garab/talibon that have metal (brass or silver) on the hilts.

Any chance that you could post pics, please?

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The carving is superb

Agreed that the pommel is very nicely carved; and intact ones are not common anymore (if they ever were)!

Regards,
Kai

Battara · 24th January 2014, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kai

Hello Jose,

Any chance that you could post pics, please?

Sorry I would love to, but this was years ago when I didn't think to have film in a camera. It was at a gun and knife show. 2 garab of wood and each had brass embellishments on them, each a different in style on each, but there along with the wood carvings. Again very rare.

I suppose looking back it is possible that there may have been some brass to cover repair work.......

Ferguson · 24th January 2014, 10:27 AM

Kai,

The second picture is the reverse of the blade. It shows all high carbon steel to within about 1/2" of the spine. The spine shows laminations.

I agree about the leather repair. It does not look like an indigenous repair. I thought about a simple rattan wrap, but decided to leave it in the state that I found it.

Thanks,
Steve

20th January 2014, 02:02 AM	#1
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Do I have a Garab? I bought this "PHILIPPINE JUNGLE MACHETE WW11" on Ebay for a pittance. It's 24" long, and tapers from .388" (3/8", or 9.86mm) at the hilt. The hilt is nicely carved kamagong? Where the hilt is normally wrapped with rattan, it has an old leather covering held on with a brass strap. The blade is beveled on the right side and flat on the other. The beveled side shows nice laminations. The flat side of the blade etches almost completely dark. I was completely stunned to find the laminated blade. Below are some poor pictures taken inside tonight. Thanks for looking. Comments welcome! Steve Attached Images

20th January 2014, 02:14 AM	#2
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Auction pictures. Attached Images

20th January 2014, 02:40 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	YEP! A VERY NICE GARAB/ TALIBON IT IS UNUSUAL TO SEE THE ETCHED BLADE SHOWING THE FORGEING ON THESE. BUT I WOULD NOT BE SURPRIZED IF QUITE A FEW HAVE THE WATERED STEEL BLADES THAT ARE NOT SHOWING. A GOOD SIZED ONE WITH VERY NICE CARVING AND PATINA ON THE HANDLE. CONGRADULATIONS.

20th January 2014, 02:43 AM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Yes, that is a very nice garab you have there Steve and now I know who it was that outbid me on it. I thought my initial bid on it was much higher, so from now on I need to pay more attention to the emails sent by my bidding service when they come. Wonderful carving on the hilt and a good laminate blade to boot. The leather wrap is quit different though and I thought (when looking at the original auction photos) that it might have been a metal wrap of some kind. Anyway, my sincere congratulations to you on this very nice addition to your collection. Best, Robert

20th January 2014, 04:37 AM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,125	Wow Steve, that's a very fine catch!

20th January 2014, 09:35 AM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,786	Congratulations Steve! That's the second one in short time with laminated blade! Nice that the beautiful carved handle isn't broken. Regards, Detlef

20th January 2014, 01:32 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Great example Steve, and one of the finest blades on one I have seen. Congrats!

20th January 2014, 03:42 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	Steve I agree with what everyone said. congratulations on a great piece! On the one hand it would have been great to have the scabbard. On the other hand I have seen on very rare occasion garab/talibon that have metal (brass or silver) on the hilts. The carving is superb and it has brass on the hilt, a truly rare variant (never mind the laminated blade).

20th January 2014, 05:17 PM	#9
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Thank all of you gentlemen for your comments. I feel extremely lucky to have picked up this piece. Looking at the recent pictures of your wonderful Garab, made me more attuned to the Visayan pieces. I now have Tenegre, Binangon, bolo from Iloilo, and now the Garab. Maybe a Visayan family portrait soon! Battara, I have a feeling that the brass strip and leather covering was a repair by someone to replace the missing rattan covering. But it doesn't look recent. Thanks again, Steve

21st January 2014, 05:01 AM	#10
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,003	What a handsome sword. Good job on the clean up. Congrats on a good catch.

24th January 2014, 10:27 AM	#14
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Kai, The second picture is the reverse of the blade. It shows all high carbon steel to within about 1/2" of the spine. The spine shows laminations. I agree about the leather repair. It does not look like an indigenous repair. I thought about a simple rattan wrap, but decided to leave it in the state that I found it. Thanks, Steve