8 and 4 shot German matchlocks, ca. 1610

Matchlock · 12th November 2008, 07:06 PM

For superimposed loads. Concentration was important for both loading and firing ...

The 8 shot piece in the Musée de l'Armée, Paris, the one with the four serpentines and pans in the Koninklijk Museum van het Leger en van de Krijgsgeschiedenis, Brussels.

Michael

Pukka Bundook · 20th November 2008, 03:25 PM

As long as one kept a clear head, and started the ignition at the correct end, it should be ok!...but these very interesting guns appear to have had little usage. (Maybe even then, the prospective firers may have had enough imagination to see if things went wrong it could be rather bad!)

Still, the same principle can be seen applied to flint, and even percussion, so it must work.
Thankfully, the rarity of such pieces has kept them intact, to show us the inventive spirit of the times!

Many thanks for the pictures, Michael.

BTW, I find the revolving matchlocks most fascinating!. The ones I have seen even look elegant, and would be very interesting to examine.

Richard.

Matchlock · 20th November 2008, 08:47 PM

I fully agree with all you said, Richard.

Exchanging posts with you is at least as inspiring as it is rewarding.

Thanks a lot,

Michael

Matchlock · 20th November 2008, 08:54 PM

... called Luntenschloss-Drehling in German.

In the Germanisches Nationalmuseum Nürnberg.

Michael

Pukka Bundook · 22nd November 2008, 02:49 PM

Thanks for the pictures, Michael

I seem to remember seeing a photo of a very nice German revolving matchlock in the museum in St Petersburg, or whatever they call it these days!
If time permits I'll look for the picture.

Best wishes,

R.

Matchlock · 22nd November 2008, 08:06 PM

I would love to see that Eremitage picture.

Best wishes,

Michael

Pukka Bundook · 24th November 2008, 03:13 PM

Hi Michael,

Up to now I have only found one rather poor picture of the revolving matchlock from the Hermitage museum, but Somewhere I do have two much better pictures.
I will do my best to find them for you.

R.

Matchlock · 24th November 2008, 04:48 PM

Hi, Richard,

Do you happen do have pictures of these two guns at the Hermitage:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...2899#post72899

Anything on them would be welcome!

Michael

Matchlock · 24th November 2008, 07:17 PM

Richard,

I think the first one is the matchlock that you took photos of.

Please check if you got some of the others, too - thanks.

All scanned from Tarassuk's book.

Michael

12th November 2008, 07:06 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	8 and 4 shot German matchlocks, ca. 1610 For superimposed loads. Concentration was important for both loading and firing ... The 8 shot piece in the Musée de l'Armée, Paris, the one with the four serpentines and pans in the Koninklijk Museum van het Leger en van de Krijgsgeschiedenis, Brussels. Michael Attached Images

20th November 2008, 08:54 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	An interesting revolving matchlock musket, ca. 1620 ... called Luntenschloss-Drehling in German. In the Germanisches Nationalmuseum Nürnberg. Michael Attached Images

24th November 2008, 04:48 PM	#8
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Early guns at the Hermitage Armory Hi, Richard, Do you happen do have pictures of these two guns at the Hermitage: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...2899#post72899 Anything on them would be welcome! Michael

24th November 2008, 07:17 PM	#9
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Early revolving guns at the Hermitage Museum St. Petersburg Richard, I think the first one is the matchlock that you took photos of. Please check if you got some of the others, too - thanks. All scanned from Tarassuk's book. Michael Attached Images

20th November 2008, 03:25 PM	#2
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	As long as one kept a clear head, and started the ignition at the correct end, it should be ok!...but these very interesting guns appear to have had little usage. (Maybe even then, the prospective firers may have had enough imagination to see if things went wrong it could be rather bad!) Still, the same principle can be seen applied to flint, and even percussion, so it must work. Thankfully, the rarity of such pieces has kept them intact, to show us the inventive spirit of the times! Many thanks for the pictures, Michael. BTW, I find the revolving matchlocks most fascinating!. The ones I have seen even look elegant, and would be very interesting to examine. Richard.

20th November 2008, 08:47 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	I fully agree with all you said, Richard. Exchanging posts with you is at least as inspiring as it is rewarding. Thanks a lot, Michael

22nd November 2008, 02:49 PM	#5
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Thanks for the pictures, Michael I seem to remember seeing a photo of a very nice German revolving matchlock in the museum in St Petersburg, or whatever they call it these days! If time permits I'll look for the picture. Best wishes, R.

22nd November 2008, 08:06 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	I would love to see that Eremitage picture. Best wishes, Michael

24th November 2008, 03:13 PM	#7
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Hi Michael, Up to now I have only found one rather poor picture of the revolving matchlock from the Hermitage museum, but Somewhere I do have two much better pictures. I will do my best to find them for you. R.