PARANG NIABOR

Dajak · 24th February 2018, 11:00 PM

This is an example of an Parang Niabor used by the Sea dayaks.

Ben

kronckew · 25th February 2018, 08:50 AM

Nice one. bit older than mine too.

Royston · 25th February 2018, 01:02 PM

Am I correct in thinking that these are very very rare ?
I have been collecting for over 40 years and never seen one let alone owned one.
Regards
Roy

Dajak · 25th February 2018, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Royston

Am I correct in thinking that these are very very rare ?
I have been collecting for over 40 years and never seen one let alone owned one.
Regards
Roy

Yes correct they very rare I had 3 but this one was the best so I did get it back
this one could be easy from the 1700 s

Ben

kai · 25th February 2018, 05:49 PM

Hello Wayne,

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Nice one. bit older than mine too.

Yes, quite a "bit" older and very nice...

Your's is not a parang niabor though.

Regards,
Kai

kronckew · 25th February 2018, 06:58 PM

Langgai Tinggang then?

Dajak · 25th February 2018, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew

Langgai Tinggang then?

Take an look here on this site.

http://old.blades.free.fr/swords/day...ayak_intro.htm

Ben

kronckew · 25th February 2018, 10:08 PM

yup, that's where i got the name from....

kai · 25th February 2018, 10:57 PM

Hello Wayne,

Quote:

Langgai Tinggang then?

Well, it's a modern piece - it does not have to conform to traditional styles.

Assuming that your blade's cross-section isn't convex/concave, it possibly is supposed to represent a langgai tinggang...

Regards,
Kai

asomotif · 25th February 2018, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dajak

this one could be easy from the 1700 s

Ben

1700's = based on what ?

Maurice · 1st March 2018, 05:39 PM

Parang Niabors indeed are rare to find, also because they are very old, and a charactaristic sword in use, when the langgai tinggai and jimpul were even called recent.
Even in museum collections they hardly occur, only from very early collected collections. But also in these museum collections they never show up in large numbers. :-)

Kind regards,
Maurice

Maurice · 1st March 2018, 05:48 PM

PS, here is a parang Nyabor I have in my Borneo collection...

asomotif · 1st March 2018, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maurice

Parang Niabors indeed are rare to find, also because they are very old, and a charactaristic sword in use, when the langgai tinggai and jimpul were even called recent.
Even in museum collections they hardly occur, only from very early collected collections. But also in these museum collections they never show up in large numbers. :-)

Kind regards,
Maurice

Hello Maurice,

Nice to see you in the forum

When you write about / "early collected / in museum collections", Which dates / years did you encounter ?

best regards,
Willem

Maurice · 1st March 2018, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Hello Maurice,

Nice to see you in the forum

When you write about / "early collected / in museum collections", Which dates / years did you encounter ?

best regards,
Willem

Hello Willem,

yes, I found my "login" details again. :-)

When you do a little research about the Borneo swords in some museums, you will find out that the Nyabor is not frequently found amongst them.

Pitt Rivers however does have three Nyabors in their collectiondatabase (as I know of), of which one of the three is collected from, and described by Shelford, in his article: "A Provisional Classification of the Swords of the Sarawak Tribes" (1901).
The second Nyabor you find in the Pitt Rivers collection was collected by Arthur Frederick Sharp, in 1908. And there is a third, purchased by Pitt Rivers in September 1924.

Bronbeek only has one Niabor in their collection, from the former Nijmegen museum.

IFICAH also has only one Nyabor, from an early German collection.

The British Museum only has one, as far as I know (don't know about the collection/dating etc.), and there is known an old drawing from a Nyabor hilt, British Museum, 1862.

The Tropenmuseum in Amsterdam has one in their collection, dated before 1887.

In the article of banks you find a photo of a Nyabor, and also in a drawing of James Greenwood, 1899.

And you will find one here and there in some advanced private Borneo collections.

Dajak · 7th March 2018, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Wayne,

Well, it's a modern piece - it does not have to conform to traditional styles.

Assuming that your blade's cross-section isn't convex/concave, it possibly is supposed to represent a langgai tinggang...

Regards,
Kai

Not correct the langgai tinggai Has an very different krowit.

It is an cross we see this a lot with the newer type s

Ben

kai · 7th March 2018, 07:42 PM

Sure, it's non-traditional as already stipulated. I agree that the krowit is off by a far margin.

Arguably it isn't very sensible trying to tag any name on a mix of styles...

Regards,
Kai

24th February 2018, 11:00 PM	#1
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	PARANG NIABOR This is an example of an Parang Niabor used by the Sea dayaks. Ben Attached Images

25th February 2018, 08:50 AM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,186	Nice one. bit older than mine too. Attached Images

1st March 2018, 05:48 PM	#12
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,353	PS, here is a parang Nyabor I have in my Borneo collection... Attached Images

25th February 2018, 01:02 PM	#3
Royston Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Poole England Posts: 443	Am I correct in thinking that these are very very rare ? I have been collecting for over 40 years and never seen one let alone owned one. Regards Roy

25th February 2018, 06:58 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,186	Langgai Tinggang then?

25th February 2018, 10:08 PM	#8
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,186	yup, that's where i got the name from....

1st March 2018, 05:39 PM	#11
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,353	Parang Niabors indeed are rare to find, also because they are very old, and a charactaristic sword in use, when the langgai tinggai and jimpul were even called recent. Even in museum collections they hardly occur, only from very early collected collections. But also in these museum collections they never show up in large numbers. :-) Kind regards, Maurice

7th March 2018, 07:42 PM	#16
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Sure, it's non-traditional as already stipulated. I agree that the krowit is off by a far margin. Arguably it isn't very sensible trying to tag any name on a mix of styles... Regards, Kai