Joseph Heylin Pistol with Makkara Hilt

ALEX · 6th November 2020, 12:37 PM

Here is unusual Heylin pistol with (Indian) makkara hilt. J. Heylin was London based gunmaker in the 18thC, and the hilt could be custom made/added in India. I was just intrigued by the hilt, anyone seen similar?

Peter Andeweg · 6th November 2020, 04:47 PM

The shape of the hilt is a 'Yali', often described as lion-griffin hybrid and is commonly seen on bronze hilted daggers from South India (Tanjore, Tamil and Mysore region) in the 17th and 18th century. Very interesting combination!

Regards,
Peter

Fernando K · 6th November 2020, 10:36 PM

Hola

Me parece que no es un trabajo de HEILYN, sino que es una reproducción moderna, Fijense en el grabado de Heilyn y London, es muy pobre, incluso el "diente de perro" en el límite, se limita al estampado de punzones. Los limites del costado postizo estan terminados con los dientes. Afectuosamente

Fernando K · 6th November 2020, 10:39 PM

Hi

It seems to me that it is not a HEILYN work, but rather a modern reproduction. Notice the engraving of Heilyn and London, it is very poor, even the "dog tooth" in the limit, it is limited to stamping of punches. The limits of the false side are finished with the teeth. Affectionately

Philip · 6th November 2020, 11:34 PM

From the poor fit between the cupronickel grip and steel body, it looks like the two were not "born together". The steel parts look like they were heavily cleaned, in fact buffed, at some time, note the distribution of pitting which remains in the recessed areas.

ALEX · 8th November 2020, 01:55 PM

Peter, Fernando, Philip,
Great observations, Thank you! Pistols are not my interest, I was just interested in Yali (as Peter properly noted) handle and why would it be attached to the pistol... I think it is safe to say that we know now

Thanks again, guys.

6th November 2020, 12:37 PM	#1
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Joseph Heylin Pistol with Makkara Hilt Here is unusual Heylin pistol with (Indian) makkara hilt. J. Heylin was London based gunmaker in the 18thC, and the hilt could be custom made/added in India. I was just intrigued by the hilt, anyone seen similar? Attached Images

6th November 2020, 11:34 PM	#5
Philip Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,036	overcleaned composite? From the poor fit between the cupronickel grip and steel body, it looks like the two were not "born together". The steel parts look like they were heavily cleaned, in fact buffed, at some time, note the distribution of pitting which remains in the recessed areas.

6th November 2020, 04:47 PM	#2
Peter Andeweg Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Vlissingen, Netherlands Posts: 71	The shape of the hilt is a 'Yali', often described as lion-griffin hybrid and is commonly seen on bronze hilted daggers from South India (Tanjore, Tamil and Mysore region) in the 17th and 18th century. Very interesting combination! Regards, Peter

6th November 2020, 10:36 PM	#3
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 669	Hola Me parece que no es un trabajo de HEILYN, sino que es una reproducción moderna, Fijense en el grabado de Heilyn y London, es muy pobre, incluso el "diente de perro" en el límite, se limita al estampado de punzones. Los limites del costado postizo estan terminados con los dientes. Afectuosamente

6th November 2020, 10:39 PM	#4
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 669	Hi It seems to me that it is not a HEILYN work, but rather a modern reproduction. Notice the engraving of Heilyn and London, it is very poor, even the "dog tooth" in the limit, it is limited to stamping of punches. The limits of the false side are finished with the teeth. Affectionately

8th November 2020, 01:55 PM	#6
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Peter, Fernando, Philip, Great observations, Thank you! Pistols are not my interest, I was just interested in Yali (as Peter properly noted) handle and why would it be attached to the pistol... I think it is safe to say that we know now Thanks again, guys.