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Hello,
Here is my friend's hancer/khanjar that I believe to be Ottoman (?). Any opinions and of course the translation would be welcomed! Marius |
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An excellent example of a Turkish region Ottoman Khanjar. Dating from the mid 19th century.
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It's a very well preserved piece.
What features make it Ottoman out side of an inscription in Turkish? Any ideas on a specific region of the empire (or as Peter indicates Anatolia), point of manufacture, or ethnic group? The more I learn the more tenuous my understanding of Ottoman is ![]() The edges don't appear to have been maintained (or damage outside of a couple of small chips to what I believe is the main cutting edge). Were these weapons pure status symbol without martial purpose by the 19th century? It seems the there is just a hint of the guard and the pommel curving back to the stem of the hilt something I had thought of as a Kurdish influence. Thanks for any guidance out there. Last edited by Interested Party; 7th August 2020 at 04:56 PM. Reason: Afterthoughts |
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And so far we don't even know if the inscription is in Turkish. The shape of he hilt and blade look very Persian, yet the hilt is somehow different (hard to pinpoint how, but have a look at my poor attempt of a drawing), more like the hilts of some Kurdish daggers. ![]() While the scabbard, which of course can be a latter replacement, is clearly Ottoman because of its style and decorations... in my eyes of course. |
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Just a refresh for translation.
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Actually the prongs belong to the Albanians.
Kurds use a form of "I" hilt. |
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Regarding the Kurdish daggers that I saw, they all have "I" shaped hilts similar to the one in the second drawing, but with oval cross-section instead of round. The dagger here, in the original posting could be Kurdish in my oppinion. ![]() http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=25724 Last edited by mariusgmioc; 14th August 2020 at 07:35 AM. |
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My wootz Kurdish Jambiyah for comparison, I too noted the OP's example as being very Kurdish looking.
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Hello,
Still nobody o help me with translation?! |
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I too am curious Marius.
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Мне кажется что там нет текста, это имитация
It seems to me that there is no text, this is an imitation |
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I agree, Saracen
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