Is this Wootz Steel?

AkaaliSingh · 12th February 2011, 09:49 PM

Hey all this is my first topic... I was wondering i have cleaned a Indo Persian Khanda i have.... and this pattern showed , im unsure if it is wootz or just the aging pattana.

any comments? thanks

AkaaliSingh · 12th February 2011, 10:52 PM

pictures

Robert · 12th February 2011, 11:22 PM

Hello AkaaliSingh and welcome to the forum. Apparently your pictures didn't come through. You might want to try to upload them again.

Robert

I must have been typing this as you were posting your pictures.

Henk · 13th February 2011, 12:31 PM

Welcome to the forum.

Imho it is a pitted surface caused by the rust. Not patina and wootz neither. Maybe you can show us the whole piece.

Lew · 13th February 2011, 01:47 PM

All I see is pitting. There is no discernible wootz pattern as far as I can tell.

Gavin Nugent · 13th February 2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AkaaliSingh

Hey all this is my first topic... I was wondering i have cleaned a Indo Persian Khanda i have.... and this pattern showed , im unsure if it is wootz or just the aging pattana.

any comments? thanks

Welcome,

It would be interesting to view this Khanda as the blade by design is not typical for a Khanda.
Whilst I doubt there is a Wootz pattern to this blade by design, Wootz does not always show and often needs chemical attention to show through old patina.

Gav

ALEX · 14th February 2011, 09:11 AM

Gav is very correct. The blade needs to be etched (treated with a mild acidic solution) to reveal any pattern. The patina with pitting combination often creates an "illusion" of pattern. This particular blade does not show any. Give it a try, and good luck.

AkaaliSingh · 15th February 2011, 09:15 AM

thanks for the replys! that what i thought aswel, is their any way of geting rid of the pitting other than sanding?

AkaaliSingh · 15th February 2011, 09:25 AM

full image ( the wavey bit is apart of a spear and not apart of the khanda lol) sorry couldn't get a new picture for now.

Gavin Nugent · 15th February 2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AkaaliSingh

thanks for the replys! that what i thought aswel, is their any way of geting rid of the pitting other than sanding?

Nothing but good old fashioned elbow grease will get rid of pitting, but really, don't worry about it, it is after all an old warrior and and an old warrior need to show his age gracefully.

Gav

Atlantia · 15th February 2011, 03:25 PM

Wow, looks great, whats going on with that blade? Close-ups needed

12th February 2011, 09:49 PM	#1
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	Is this Wootz Steel? Hey all this is my first topic... I was wondering i have cleaned a Indo Persian Khanda i have.... and this pattern showed , im unsure if it is wootz or just the aging pattana. any comments? thanks

12th February 2011, 10:52 PM	#2
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	pictures Attached Images

12th February 2011, 11:22 PM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello AkaaliSingh and welcome to the forum. Apparently your pictures didn't come through. You might want to try to upload them again. Robert I must have been typing this as you were posting your pictures. Last edited by Robert Coleman; 13th February 2011 at 08:15 PM.

15th February 2011, 09:25 AM	#9
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	full image ( the wavey bit is apart of a spear and not apart of the khanda lol) sorry couldn't get a new picture for now. Attached Images

13th February 2011, 12:31 PM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	Welcome to the forum. Imho it is a pitted surface caused by the rust. Not patina and wootz neither. Maybe you can show us the whole piece.

13th February 2011, 01:47 PM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	All I see is pitting. There is no discernible wootz pattern as far as I can tell.

14th February 2011, 09:11 AM	#7
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Gav is very correct. The blade needs to be etched (treated with a mild acidic solution) to reveal any pattern. The patina with pitting combination often creates an "illusion" of pattern. This particular blade does not show any. Give it a try, and good luck.

15th February 2011, 09:15 AM	#8
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	thanks for the replys! that what i thought aswel, is their any way of geting rid of the pitting other than sanding?

15th February 2011, 03:25 PM	#11
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Wow, looks great, whats going on with that blade? Close-ups needed