Nepali Bowie? for comment

kronckew · 9th April 2008, 05:56 PM

Nepali bowie?

just picked this one up on ebay as it looked a bit like an older version of some Nepali non-kukuhri knives i've admired elsewhere. maybe Indian? doesn't look all that old, but...

maybe more photos after it arrives if it's worth it....

ebay item 360039170405, more pics there till it expires....

Lew · 9th April 2008, 06:08 PM

Very nice but I think you paid too much for it

Lew

kronckew · 9th April 2008, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Very nice but I think you paid too much for it

Lew

well, sometime you just get carried away at these auctions and just can't stop bidding....

i know it almost got up to the level of shah jahan's, but luckily it stopped a bit short of that.

spiral · 9th April 2008, 06:48 PM

Well Done! you won it for what I bid! A bargain I think, I would guess its ww2 era myself & perhaps made in India, hard to truly know.

Nicest one of that type Ive seen.

Spiral

katana · 9th April 2008, 07:19 PM

A nice restoration project Kronckew

at a good price

Any idea as to what material the inlay is ?

Regards David

kronckew · 9th April 2008, 07:30 PM

Not mentioned in the sales blurb, MOP or ivory, bone even?

i am already having visions of cutting little diamonds of bone...c'mhere doggies, can i borrow that.....

spiral · 9th April 2008, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

Not mentioned in the sales blurb, MOP or ivory, bone even?

i am already having visions of cutting little diamonds of bone...c'mhere doggies, can i borrow that.....

I was guessing pot metal or aluminium?

The white stuff would be nice though!

Spiral

kronckew · 12th April 2008, 08:01 PM

she arrived today. spiral was right on in his last post - inlays appear to be aluminum. slight amt. of rust on bolster, blade had a few spots of rust and a light stain, but was generally nicely polished. some magnolia paint near the tip. scabbard is in good shape except it appears to have been dropped on the tip at some point, could do with a chape. there are some areas where you can see signs that the blade has been forged, then ground to shape. some light marks on the butt plate that look like it may have been used to hammer something, and a few batonning marks on the spine near the upper edge. the grip has some light damage to the grip where a bit seems to have been split off on the edge of the checkering on the lower side, it's all old damage and the area is worn and smooth from someones hand having caressed the grip over time.

photo's after a quick light clean and oiling.

grip length 4 3/8 in., guard 2" x 1 3/8 oval (octagonal with rounded 'corners') brass, blade width at guard 1 3/8, 1.5 in. at start of upper edge, 'false' edge is not false, it's sharp & 3 in. long, total blade length 13.25 in. blade is a hair over 1/4 in. at the guard, there is a shallow fuller down both sides which is apparent in the photos. octagonal brass butt plate is 2 1/8 in. x 1 3/8 in. and is held by the peened tang. there is a gearlike or sunburst like washer of about 1/2 in. between the peen and the butt plate.

all in all this is now one of my favourites. it's more of a short sword. love it. now i need to make 6 little aluminum diamonds....

Lew · 13th April 2008, 12:36 AM

Very nice

Love it! You are one lucky man

Hopefully I will be able to show you my new Acquistion soon

Congrats

Lew

Emanuel · 13th April 2008, 04:32 PM

Very nice! It looks like a somewhat newer take on this strange piece: http://www.ikrhs.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=397

spiral · 14th April 2008, 02:53 AM

Lovely piece Kronckew, If I could have seen that hollow grind in the blade in the ebay photo, I would have bid 3x more than I did, its definatly the best quality one Ive seen.

Theyve been arround since at least ww2 in Nepal although the octaganal grip & scabbard constrution of this one look more Indian or Garhwalli construction to me. {Dehradun area etc.]

Id guess ww2 era but have no evidence.

What does it wiegh?

Spiral

kronckew · 14th April 2008, 08:59 AM

hi spiral,

it is 400 grams on my kitchen scales...

roughly 7/8 lb. (14.1 oz.) in old imperial

units

scratch · 15th April 2008, 12:34 PM

Hello kronkew,
I was another bidder on this piece A good buy I think.
I'm glad it has gone to an appreciative home and has been shared. Thank you!
I thought it would be a nice comparison piece for the one Emanuel has been so kind to link, cheers

They're similiar yet different

Looking forward to seeing more of your bargain buys

Best regards,

scratch/Dan :

spiral · 15th April 2008, 05:48 PM

Wow! definatly a serious fighter then, sounds lovely!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

hi spiral,

it is 400 grams on my kitchen scales...

roughly 7/8 lb. (14.1 oz.) in old imperial

units

kronckew · 15th April 2008, 09:04 PM

well, i've done a bit of restoration on it, this was posted on a kukhri oriented site where some of us cross post...

Quote:

before:

After:

cut diamonds out of old aluminum pan, flattened them, tried them in holes (4 on top row, 1 far left bottom row), trimmed as needed, mixed up some clear slow dry epoxy, filled holes with epoxy, set diamonds in holes, pressed them till they were flush, wiped off excess epoxy. let cure. next day trimmed with a razor sharp knife, sanded with emery cloth & crocus cloth to make sure they were flush and no protrusions, cleaned dirty original inlay far left top row. oiled. the 'white' on the checkering is flash reflection, they are a tad shiney after i oiled them & cleaned the bit of paint out of the grooves near the pommel.

9th April 2008, 05:56 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	Nepali Bowie? for comment Nepali bowie? just picked this one up on ebay as it looked a bit like an older version of some Nepali non-kukuhri knives i've admired elsewhere. maybe Indian? doesn't look all that old, but... maybe more photos after it arrives if it's worth it.... ebay item 360039170405, more pics there till it expires....

9th April 2008, 07:19 PM	#5
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	A nice restoration project Kronckew at a good price Any idea as to what material the inlay is ? Regards David Attached Images

12th April 2008, 08:01 PM	#8
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	she arrived today. spiral was right on in his last post - inlays appear to be aluminum. slight amt. of rust on bolster, blade had a few spots of rust and a light stain, but was generally nicely polished. some magnolia paint near the tip. scabbard is in good shape except it appears to have been dropped on the tip at some point, could do with a chape. there are some areas where you can see signs that the blade has been forged, then ground to shape. some light marks on the butt plate that look like it may have been used to hammer something, and a few batonning marks on the spine near the upper edge. the grip has some light damage to the grip where a bit seems to have been split off on the edge of the checkering on the lower side, it's all old damage and the area is worn and smooth from someones hand having caressed the grip over time. photo's after a quick light clean and oiling. grip length 4 3/8 in., guard 2" x 1 3/8 oval (octagonal with rounded 'corners') brass, blade width at guard 1 3/8, 1.5 in. at start of upper edge, 'false' edge is not false, it's sharp & 3 in. long, total blade length 13.25 in. blade is a hair over 1/4 in. at the guard, there is a shallow fuller down both sides which is apparent in the photos. octagonal brass butt plate is 2 1/8 in. x 1 3/8 in. and is held by the peened tang. there is a gearlike or sunburst like washer of about 1/2 in. between the peen and the butt plate. all in all this is now one of my favourites. it's more of a short sword. love it. now i need to make 6 little aluminum diamonds.... Last edited by kronckew; 12th April 2008 at 08:21 PM.

14th April 2008, 08:59 AM	#12
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	hi spiral, it is 400 grams on my kitchen scales... roughly 7/8 lb. (14.1 oz.) in old imperial units Last edited by kronckew; 14th April 2008 at 10:26 AM.

9th April 2008, 06:08 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Very nice but I think you paid too much for it Lew

9th April 2008, 06:48 PM	#4
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Well Done! you won it for what I bid! A bargain I think, I would guess its ww2 era myself & perhaps made in India, hard to truly know. Nicest one of that type Ive seen. Spiral

9th April 2008, 07:30 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	Not mentioned in the sales blurb, MOP or ivory, bone even? i am already having visions of cutting little diamonds of bone...c'mhere doggies, can i borrow that.....

13th April 2008, 12:36 AM	#9
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Very nice Love it! You are one lucky man Hopefully I will be able to show you my new Acquistion soon Congrats Lew

13th April 2008, 04:32 PM	#10
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Very nice! It looks like a somewhat newer take on this strange piece: http://www.ikrhs.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=397

14th April 2008, 02:53 AM	#11
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Lovely piece Kronckew, If I could have seen that hollow grind in the blade in the ebay photo, I would have bid 3x more than I did, its definatly the best quality one Ive seen. Theyve been arround since at least ww2 in Nepal although the octaganal grip & scabbard constrution of this one look more Indian or Garhwalli construction to me. {Dehradun area etc.] Id guess ww2 era but have no evidence. What does it wiegh? Spiral

15th April 2008, 12:34 PM	#13
scratch Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 96	Hello kronkew, I was another bidder on this piece A good buy I think. I'm glad it has gone to an appreciative home and has been shared. Thank you! I thought it would be a nice comparison piece for the one Emanuel has been so kind to link, cheers They're similiar yet different Looking forward to seeing more of your bargain buys Best regards, scratch/Dan :