keris Bugi

semar · 26th December 2009, 05:11 PM

pictures for sharing or comment

regards semar

BluErf · 26th December 2009, 11:06 PM

Hi Semar,

Can we have a full frontal shot of the keris in it sheath please?

Can you provide more information like where this keris was acquired etc? Whether you know any parts had been swapped, etc. Thanks!

Alam Shah · 27th December 2009, 03:30 AM

Hi Semar,
Happy holidays.. looking at the ganja, I kinda' feel awkward.. the metal type, finishes, the joint between the ganja and bilah/wilah/blade.. the fretworks style at the greneng (kerawang).. imho, show signs of a possible replacement..

semar · 27th December 2009, 08:37 AM

hello Bluerf

I Buy this keris one my last holiday in indonesia and the dealer say that the keris original and nothing is changes but they always say that

regards semar

BluErf · 27th December 2009, 11:37 AM

The sheath looks like it has been treated with black pigment. Traditionally, Bugis keris do not have such metal sleeves, so the sheath's "original"-ness is suspect. Anyway, the hilt is nice, and is difficult to come by. The ganja is indeed odd, hence, likely a replacement.

semar · 27th December 2009, 06:45 PM

the sleeves is with silver and the middel part is copper and the lower part is again silver

Rick · 27th December 2009, 10:48 PM

I'm uncomfortable with the gonjo also .
It is not of the same pamor material as the blade IMO .
Looks like a fair amount of 'goo' between the two pieces .

BluErf · 28th December 2009, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semar

the sleeves is with silver and the middel part is copper and the lower part is again silver

Thanks for the extra info, but still not traditional Bugis. Anyway, all that looks silver may not always be silver...

The other thing of course is the blade is not a Bugis blade anyway. Could be Sumatran in origin, but not a Bugis-style blade.

The hilt is Sulawesi style, and as I had mentioned before, is quite nice.

semar · 28th December 2009, 01:13 PM

oke bluerf thank you for the info

26th December 2009, 05:11 PM	#1
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	keris Bugi pictures for sharing or comment regards semar Attached Images

27th December 2009, 08:37 AM	#4
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	hello Bluerf I Buy this keris one my last holiday in indonesia and the dealer say that the keris original and nothing is changes but they always say that regards semar Attached Images

26th December 2009, 11:06 PM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Hi Semar, Can we have a full frontal shot of the keris in it sheath please? Can you provide more information like where this keris was acquired etc? Whether you know any parts had been swapped, etc. Thanks!

27th December 2009, 03:30 AM	#3
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Hi Semar, Happy holidays.. looking at the ganja, I kinda' feel awkward.. the metal type, finishes, the joint between the ganja and bilah/wilah/blade.. the fretworks style at the greneng (kerawang).. imho, show signs of a possible replacement..

27th December 2009, 11:37 AM	#5
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	The sheath looks like it has been treated with black pigment. Traditionally, Bugis keris do not have such metal sleeves, so the sheath's "original"-ness is suspect. Anyway, the hilt is nice, and is difficult to come by. The ganja is indeed odd, hence, likely a replacement.

27th December 2009, 06:45 PM	#6
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	the sleeves is with silver and the middel part is copper and the lower part is again silver

27th December 2009, 10:48 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,287	I'm uncomfortable with the gonjo also . It is not of the same pamor material as the blade IMO . Looks like a fair amount of 'goo' between the two pieces .

28th December 2009, 01:13 PM	#9
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	oke bluerf thank you for the info