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Old 13th August 2023, 10:48 AM   #1
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Does anyone know what these items are called?
I have across a few of these and many in photos but cannot figure out what their purpose i beyond that of a screwdriver and fire starter. I spoke with a Circassian bladesmith who told me the design with one long slot is for straightening or fixing any nicks in the blade of your shashka/kindjal.
This makes sense for that particular design, but for the ones that have two smaller slots and the circular opening in the middle? Any help would be appreciated, any speculation would be welcome as well.
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Old 13th August 2023, 10:51 AM   #2
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I believe they must be used as a tool for the miquelet lock and rifle in some way as well. The design was used all the way into the service of the Russian M1870 Berdan №2 where it's uses are more apparent.
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Does anyone know what these items are called?
I have across a few of these and many in photos but cannot figure out what their purpose i beyond that of a screwdriver and fire starter. I spoke with a Circassian bladesmith who told me the design with one long slot is for straightening or fixing any nicks in the blade of your shashka/kindjal.
This makes sense for that particular design, but for the ones that have two smaller slots and the circular opening in the middle? Any help would be appreciated, any speculation would be welcome as well.
This is a screwdriver - an object with which, at the right time, they tightened the bolts on the gun, and generally monitored its good condition. The screwdriver had nothing to do with the shashka and dagger. A screwdriver hung on the belt on the right side. With the transition to modern firearms became an element of decor, which was made of silver. Small decorative screwdrivers have turned into wolves, dogs and dragons.
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This is a screwdriver - an object with which, at the right time, they tightened the bolts on the gun, and generally monitored its good condition. The screwdriver had nothing to do with the shashka and dagger. A screwdriver hung on the belt on the right side. With the transition to modern firearms became an element of decor, which was made of silver. Small decorative screwdrivers have turned into wolves, dogs and dragons.
Surely these slots served some purpose?
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Surely these slots served some purpose?
Made of silver, these were exclusively decorative elements.
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Made of silver, these were exclusively decorative elements.
Sure, the silver ones are decorative. However, take a look at the first post, there many made from Iron and Steel and utilitarian
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Sure, the silver ones are decorative. However, take a look at the first post, there many made from Iron and Steel and utilitarian
Of course, from iron are utilitarian. They performed the function of a screwdriver, as I wrote in response to the first post.
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