indopersian spear point for comment

weapons 27 · 23rd June 2017, 04:13 PM

What do you think of this IndoPersian spear point..
It lacks a lot of kofgari especially on one side ..
It measures 41cm long the iron 20cm
thank to all

Kmaddock · 23rd June 2017, 06:03 PM

Hi

I know nothing about this but I love how it looks

The cobwebs in the socket are just perfect, did you rescue this piece from a neglected life?

Well done

Regards
Ken

Gavin Nugent · 24th June 2017, 02:19 AM

Its an odd bird...the form, (disregarding the motifs) has a Somali flavour, the motifs look somewhat Toledo Spain to me.

Gavin

weapons 27 · 24th June 2017, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kmaddock

Hi

I know nothing about this but I love how it looks

The cobwebs in the socket are just perfect, did you rescue this piece from a neglected life?

Well done

Regards
Ken

hi ken
Yes I found this piece completely rusty with this piece of stick stuck inside the sleeve

Tim Simmons · 24th June 2017, 08:34 AM

It look rather art nouveau to me. Europea, some kind of ceremonial pole arm. Shame it just the top.

colin henshaw · 24th June 2017, 09:41 AM

This looks like a Somali spearhead that has been embellished, for some reason.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 24th June 2017, 05:56 PM

It looks Qajari ...Persian. 1785 to 1925. Weapons adorned in silver and or gold were often used for Parade.

Tim Simmons · 25th June 2017, 07:47 PM

All the books I have on Persian arms have decorated spears, the designs are floral but are much more formal at the same time. Often contained in borders and sections or if the pattern covers the whole blade. The floral pattern is stiffer displaying less movement. It would be really good to explore these designs. I am thinking that the Islamic art that influenced European Art Nouveau patterns. The European Art Nouveau may well have had an influence on Persian pattern giving the feeling of movement that is so much part of Art Nouveau?

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 25th June 2017, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

All the books I have on Persian arms have decorated spears, the designs are floral but are much more formal at the same time. Often contained in borders and sections or if the pattern covers the whole blade. The floral pattern is stiffer displaying less movement. It would be really good to explore these designs. I am thinking that the Islamic art that influenced European Art Nouveau patterns. The European Art Nouveau may well have had an influence on Persian pattern giving the feeling of movement that is so much part of Art Nouveau?

It is a huge subject ...Please see https://books.google.com.om/books?id...ARMOUR&f=false

23rd June 2017, 04:13 PM	#1
weapons 27 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 462	indopersian spear point for comment What do you think of this IndoPersian spear point.. It lacks a lot of kofgari especially on one side .. It measures 41cm long the iron 20cm thank to all Attached Images

24th June 2017, 05:56 PM	#7
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	It looks Qajari ...Persian. 1785 to 1925. Weapons adorned in silver and or gold were often used for Parade. Attached Images

23rd June 2017, 06:03 PM	#2
Kmaddock Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Ireland Posts: 543	Hi I know nothing about this but I love how it looks The cobwebs in the socket are just perfect, did you rescue this piece from a neglected life? Well done Regards Ken

24th June 2017, 02:19 AM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Its an odd bird...the form, (disregarding the motifs) has a Somali flavour, the motifs look somewhat Toledo Spain to me. Gavin

24th June 2017, 08:34 AM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	It look rather art nouveau to me. Europea, some kind of ceremonial pole arm. Shame it just the top.

24th June 2017, 09:41 AM	#6
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	This looks like a Somali spearhead that has been embellished, for some reason.

25th June 2017, 07:47 PM	#8
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	All the books I have on Persian arms have decorated spears, the designs are floral but are much more formal at the same time. Often contained in borders and sections or if the pattern covers the whole blade. The floral pattern is stiffer displaying less movement. It would be really good to explore these designs. I am thinking that the Islamic art that influenced European Art Nouveau patterns. The European Art Nouveau may well have had an influence on Persian pattern giving the feeling of movement that is so much part of Art Nouveau?