Very nice Palitai for enjoy!

Sajen · 11th December 2012, 12:30 AM

Hello,

only want to save the pictures from this palitai from Mentawai for enjoy and later reference. It was offered some time ago by ebay but wasn't sold.

Regards,

Detlef

ariel · 11th December 2012, 12:56 AM

It has a Smiley Face!
Palitai Gump:-)

Sajen · 11th December 2012, 01:11 AM

Yes, the friendly knife!

Forget the the measurements: 70 cm complete, handle 26 cm and blade 29 cm.

VVV · 11th December 2012, 07:45 AM

I think it is a later "interpretation" based on the blade quality, blade shape, size etc.

Michael

Sajen · 11th December 2012, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VVV

I think it is a later "interpretation" based on the blade quality, blade shape, size etc.

Michael

Hello Michael,

so do you think it is not the "real thing"?

Regards,

Detlef

Atlantia · 11th December 2012, 01:09 PM

Hi Detlef,

Again you manage to unearth an unusual and beautiful piece!

That is certanly one of the most attractive I've seen!
I love the form, the happy face and pot bellied sheath are really nice.
A beautiful piece, thank you for sharing!

Best
Gene

VVV · 11th December 2012, 02:14 PM

Detlef,

I am positive that it is not antique.
If it is later and made for local use or if it is made for collectors is harder to tell. I lean towards the last alternative.
The old palitai in museums and old collections have very good quality blades and are usually larger in size.
I also suspect that the feathers etc. are attached to pimp it up.
You can compare the features yourself if you check either the Leiden or Tropen online databases. They both have several palitai in their collections.

Michael

Indianajones · 11th December 2012, 02:36 PM

Detlef,
I agree with Michael; some sort of quite late conqoction. May be authentic as in used by the Mentawai (in 1970's or so?), but not antique.

As I have owned a genuine antique one some time ago I hardly recognize this as being a palitai. Usually they are more reddish in color, scabbard is more straight and the projection at the handle-end had a smooth curve with -as this somewhat has- a 'ridge' in the middle. I dont recall having still pictures of it in my documents.

So you can sleep tight again Detlef; no need to remorse over this missed chance of this ebay "palitai"!

Greets Wouter

Sajen · 11th December 2012, 03:57 PM

Thank you all for comment!

So it was very useful to bring up this thread.

I was sceptical by the blade, maybe this and the high price was the reason why I don't bid.

You are correct Michael, the blades from the Leiden musem have much better blades.

Regards,

Detlef

11th December 2012, 12:30 AM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Very nice Palitai for enjoy! Hello, only want to save the pictures from this palitai from Mentawai for enjoy and later reference. It was offered some time ago by ebay but wasn't sold. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

11th December 2012, 03:57 PM	#9
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Thank you all for comment! So it was very useful to bring up this thread. I was sceptical by the blade, maybe this and the high price was the reason why I don't bid. You are correct Michael, the blades from the Leiden musem have much better blades. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

11th December 2012, 12:56 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	It has a Smiley Face! Palitai Gump:-)

11th December 2012, 01:11 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Yes, the friendly knife! Forget the the measurements: 70 cm complete, handle 26 cm and blade 29 cm.

11th December 2012, 07:45 AM	#4
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	I think it is a later "interpretation" based on the blade quality, blade shape, size etc. Michael

11th December 2012, 01:09 PM	#6
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Detlef, Again you manage to unearth an unusual and beautiful piece! That is certanly one of the most attractive I've seen! I love the form, the happy face and pot bellied sheath are really nice. A beautiful piece, thank you for sharing! Best Gene

11th December 2012, 02:14 PM	#7
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Detlef, I am positive that it is not antique. If it is later and made for local use or if it is made for collectors is harder to tell. I lean towards the last alternative. The old palitai in museums and old collections have very good quality blades and are usually larger in size. I also suspect that the feathers etc. are attached to pimp it up. You can compare the features yourself if you check either the Leiden or Tropen online databases. They both have several palitai in their collections. Michael

11th December 2012, 02:36 PM	#8
Indianajones Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 180	Detlef, I agree with Michael; some sort of quite late conqoction. May be authentic as in used by the Mentawai (in 1970's or so?), but not antique. As I have owned a genuine antique one some time ago I hardly recognize this as being a palitai. Usually they are more reddish in color, scabbard is more straight and the projection at the handle-end had a smooth curve with -as this somewhat has- a 'ridge' in the middle. I dont recall having still pictures of it in my documents. So you can sleep tight again Detlef; no need to remorse over this missed chance of this ebay "palitai"! Greets Wouter