Spanish Sword?

ALEX · 20th June 2007, 12:17 PM

I assume it is Spanish. After seeing pictures of a nimcha posted by Tatjana, I've noticed the similarity in a form of the quillions. This sword has two turned quillion ends which are connected together in a fashion which suggests a hanging loop. Perhaps it is for something else. The sword is someway heavy. I can not even guess it's age, authenticity and even a name for it:-) would appreciate any comments about this sword.

ariel · 20th June 2007, 01:28 PM

Yes, you are likely correct.
The old Moresque swords in Spain had down-turned quillons; I guess Nimcha is a descendant of this tradition.
Interestingly, old variant of Omani Kattaras had similar quillons, too.

RSWORD · 20th June 2007, 02:24 PM

This is most likely a late 19th century sword, probably made in Spain, that is done in imitation of I believe 15th century swords. I have often heard of this style of sword referred to as "El Cid".

carlos · 20th June 2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RSWORD

This is most likely a late 19th century sword, probably made in Spain, that is done in imitation of I believe 15th century swords. I have often heard of this style of sword referred to as "El Cid".

PROBABLY FIRST OF THE 20TH CENTURY. TOLEDO IS PLENTY OF THIS TYPE OF SWORDS, LIKE THE SWORD OF THE CID.
REGARDS
CARLOS

ALEX · 20th June 2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by carlos

PROBABLY FIRST OF THE 20TH CENTURY. ...

Thanks to all. Based on your comments, the heavy weight of the sword, it's quite unbalanced feel and crude workmanship, it is most probably a 20th cent replica.

Jim McDougall · 20th June 2007, 06:35 PM

Agree with all, this is indeed a decorative representation of the early Hispano-Moresque 'jinetas' of the period ascribed to 'El Cid', a most colorful history! As Ariel has noted, the fashion of these certainly did influence many weapons through the centuries, and it is always interesting that traditional style is often so fervently held in developing forms, from the dramatic to subtle examples.

Best regards,
Jim

20th June 2007, 12:17 PM	#1
ALEX Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 936	Spanish Sword? I assume it is Spanish. After seeing pictures of a nimcha posted by Tatjana, I've noticed the similarity in a form of the quillions. This sword has two turned quillion ends which are connected together in a fashion which suggests a hanging loop. Perhaps it is for something else. The sword is someway heavy. I can not even guess it's age, authenticity and even a name for it:-) would appreciate any comments about this sword. Attached Images

20th June 2007, 01:28 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Yes, you are likely correct. The old Moresque swords in Spain had down-turned quillons; I guess Nimcha is a descendant of this tradition. Interestingly, old variant of Omani Kattaras had similar quillons, too.

20th June 2007, 02:24 PM	#3
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,084	This is most likely a late 19th century sword, probably made in Spain, that is done in imitation of I believe 15th century swords. I have often heard of this style of sword referred to as "El Cid".

20th June 2007, 06:35 PM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,954	Agree with all, this is indeed a decorative representation of the early Hispano-Moresque 'jinetas' of the period ascribed to 'El Cid', a most colorful history! As Ariel has noted, the fashion of these certainly did influence many weapons through the centuries, and it is always interesting that traditional style is often so fervently held in developing forms, from the dramatic to subtle examples. Best regards, Jim