yatagan for id please

weapons 27 · 3rd April 2014, 05:35 PM

can you give me the origin of the yatagan

It measures 70cm long, the blade 5cm heel, very thick in the heel, t blade...
mother-of-Pearl and brass inlays. and a marking on the blade

Emanuel · 4th April 2014, 01:58 AM

Ooh, very interesting piece, the blade has very graceful lines!

The mother-of-pearl looks like a modern addition to the large brass rivets. The style recalls North/Eastern Anatolian and Central Asian types. The integral bolster and thinning tang is very very interesting.

Emanuel · 15th April 2014, 02:36 PM

I'll bump this, in case someone else has some thoughts to share on this piece.

Sancar · 16th April 2014, 01:35 AM

Very interesting, very original, very unusual...and probably either not Turkish and/or recently made. It's not just the hilt,shape of the blade itself is also very unusual, and have some subtle differences from the usual form of a yatağan(even so that yatağan form itself varied radically)

It is very beautiful, yet puzzling.

Emanuel · 16th April 2014, 02:07 PM

I was hoping you'd chime in on this, Sancar. I was looking through your thread on contemporary Turkish bladesmiths to see if something similar came up.

Skarts_ss · 18th April 2014, 08:54 PM

Hi,
i think that this yatagan comes from Trebizold area(Pontos) in the black sea. I would say that it is of late 19th or early 20th century . It seems christian.

Sancar · 21st April 2014, 12:23 PM

This is not a Black Sea yatağan, or a recently made more Turkish reproduction. The rivet and inlay decoration reminds me of Central Asian knives. Shape of ears and hilt is similar to Caucasian region wooden hilted shashkas. So I think this might be a rehilted Khyber knife or a modern "yatağan" made by an Afgani or Northen Uzbek bladesmith who usually make Khyber knife type blades.

3rd April 2014, 05:35 PM	#1
weapons 27 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 462	yatagan for id please can you give me the origin of the yatagan It measures 70cm long, the blade 5cm heel, very thick in the heel, t blade... mother-of-Pearl and brass inlays. and a marking on the blade Attached Images

4th April 2014, 01:58 AM	#2
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Ooh, very interesting piece, the blade has very graceful lines! The mother-of-pearl looks like a modern addition to the large brass rivets. The style recalls North/Eastern Anatolian and Central Asian types. The integral bolster and thinning tang is very very interesting. Last edited by Emanuel; 4th April 2014 at 02:15 AM.

15th April 2014, 02:36 PM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	I'll bump this, in case someone else has some thoughts to share on this piece.

16th April 2014, 01:35 AM	#4
Sancar Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 79	Very interesting, very original, very unusual...and probably either not Turkish and/or recently made. It's not just the hilt,shape of the blade itself is also very unusual, and have some subtle differences from the usual form of a yatağan(even so that yatağan form itself varied radically) It is very beautiful, yet puzzling.

16th April 2014, 02:07 PM	#5
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	I was hoping you'd chime in on this, Sancar. I was looking through your thread on contemporary Turkish bladesmiths to see if something similar came up.

18th April 2014, 08:54 PM	#6
Skarts_ss Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47	Hi, i think that this yatagan comes from Trebizold area(Pontos) in the black sea. I would say that it is of late 19th or early 20th century . It seems christian.

21st April 2014, 12:23 PM	#7
Sancar Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 79	This is not a Black Sea yatağan, or a recently made more Turkish reproduction. The rivet and inlay decoration reminds me of Central Asian knives. Shape of ears and hilt is similar to Caucasian region wooden hilted shashkas. So I think this might be a rehilted Khyber knife or a modern "yatağan" made by an Afgani or Northen Uzbek bladesmith who usually make Khyber knife type blades.