English sword model 1796

Alexander · 7th June 2011, 03:11 PM

Dear friends! I want to ask your opinion on a sword of 1796.
1. Me the detailed information on brand HARVEY interests.
2. On a sheath date 1810, what it means? Figures 222 (number of a sheath)? And a star? Respect, Alexander.

Atlantia · 7th June 2011, 03:16 PM

Hi Alexander

Could the makers name read 'HADLEY'? It doesn't look like 'HARVEY' to me.

Edit: Thomas Hadley & Sons of Birmingham would seem to have the right date range, but I'm not familiar with how their swords were marked so can't say for sure if this is one.
Lovely sword BTW.

Edit 2: Just having a 'bing' and came up with this from a thread over at SFI about a 1796 LC made by HADLEY:

"Mr De Witt Bailey has written a very interesting book “British Board of Ordnance Small Arms Contractors 1689-1840”. It is based on the BO Bill Book or treasurer’s ledger.

Thomas Hadley from Birmingham was recorded as barrels, locks, bayonets, swords and rammers provider with dates: June 1776 – August 1781; May 1804 – March 1818; October – November 1823 and final date of appearance on March 1828."

Best
Gene

Atlantia · 7th June 2011, 03:33 PM

Spine stamp picture of the aforementioned HADLEY 1796LC:

Atlantia · 7th June 2011, 03:35 PM

Spine marking on a British 1804 cutlass:

fernando · 7th June 2011, 04:21 PM

Very nice sword, Alexander !

Atlantia · 7th June 2011, 06:39 PM

Here is a digital reconstruction of the spine markings on your sword as HADLEY:

7th June 2011, 03:11 PM	#1
Alexander Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Russia, Moscow. Posts: 48	English sword model 1796 Dear friends! I want to ask your opinion on a sword of 1796. 1. Me the detailed information on brand HARVEY interests. 2. On a sheath date 1810, what it means? Figures 222 (number of a sheath)? And a star? Respect, Alexander. Attached Images

7th June 2011, 03:16 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Alexander Could the makers name read 'HADLEY'? It doesn't look like 'HARVEY' to me. Edit: Thomas Hadley & Sons of Birmingham would seem to have the right date range, but I'm not familiar with how their swords were marked so can't say for sure if this is one. Lovely sword BTW. Edit 2: Just having a 'bing' and came up with this from a thread over at SFI about a 1796 LC made by HADLEY: "Mr De Witt Bailey has written a very interesting book “British Board of Ordnance Small Arms Contractors 1689-1840”. It is based on the BO Bill Book or treasurer’s ledger. Thomas Hadley from Birmingham was recorded as barrels, locks, bayonets, swords and rammers provider with dates: June 1776 – August 1781; May 1804 – March 1818; October – November 1823 and final date of appearance on March 1828." Best Gene Last edited by Atlantia; 7th June 2011 at 03:38 PM.

7th June 2011, 03:33 PM	#3
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Spine stamp picture of the aforementioned HADLEY 1796LC: Attached Images

7th June 2011, 03:35 PM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Spine marking on a British 1804 cutlass: Attached Images

7th June 2011, 06:39 PM	#6
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Here is a digital reconstruction of the spine markings on your sword as HADLEY: Attached Images Last edited by Atlantia; 7th June 2011 at 07:02 PM.

7th June 2011, 04:21 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Very nice sword, Alexander !