Moroccan nimcha, blade marks ??

francantolin · 22nd May 2018, 08:59 PM

Hello,
I get this old nimcha sword,
Bad conditions,
old (?) repairs on the hilt, I don't know if it's wood or horn made
( have to warm a needle...).

I don't know if the blade is european,
nothing extraordinary I think,
but does anybody know the marks on the blade ?
a moroccan recent stamp for make the sword more antique ?

francantolin · 22nd May 2018, 09:00 PM

the complete sword...

francantolin · 23rd May 2018, 07:04 PM

For the handle,
Old or recent repairs ?

Thank you

Kubur · 23rd May 2018, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by francantolin

For the handle,
Old or recent repairs ?

Thank you

We need more photos.... of a better quality

francantolin · 23rd May 2018, 09:00 PM

Ok ! Thanks,

I'll make it and post it tomorrow !
( Daylight will be better !)

Battara · 24th May 2018, 12:32 AM

From what I can tell, the hilt looks like wood and the hilt plates look like either copper or brass. The mark sortive looks like a running fox. If it is, then the blade was made in Solingen, Germany (if my memory is correct).

francantolin · 24th May 2018, 06:38 PM

Hello,Thank you Battara !
Yes I think

the hilt is made from wood !
( Just one small light brown piece of the hilt near the copper repair made me think of horn...)
For the blade marks-stamps,
there is six times ''three points making a triangle'',
I saw it on indo persian blades but I don't know for these...

Kind regards

francantolin · 24th May 2018, 06:44 PM

Here the handle and the upper view of the blade,
An heavy blade, 34 inches long

francantolin · 24th May 2018, 10:05 PM

A site talking about indian swords:

The blade appears to be a native pattern welded blade with rubbed 'eyelash' quality markings. These markings are finished with rubbed groups of three dots to each end and 7cms from the centre of this grouping are found clear groupings of three dots - a common theme on many Indian blades.

Jens Nordlunde · 25th May 2018, 05:50 PM

Solingen had a running wolf, but it does not matter if it looks like a fox or a wolf. The point is, that this, and many other European marks, were copied in India - with arms and legs as we say in Denmark - meaning a lot.
The blade is, unfortunately, scratched quite a lot, so the pattern is not clear, but the repeated three dots marks, makes me think it could be an Indian trade blade. The dots representing the three main gods in India.

22nd May 2018, 08:59 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Moroccan nimcha, blade marks ?? Hello, I get this old nimcha sword, Bad conditions, old (?) repairs on the hilt, I don't know if it's wood or horn made ( have to warm a needle...). I don't know if the blade is european, nothing extraordinary I think, but does anybody know the marks on the blade ? a moroccan recent stamp for make the sword more antique ? Attached Images

22nd May 2018, 09:00 PM	#2
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	the complete sword... Attached Images

24th May 2018, 06:38 PM	#7
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Hello,Thank you Battara ! Yes I think the hilt is made from wood ! ( Just one small light brown piece of the hilt near the copper repair made me think of horn...) For the blade marks-stamps, there is six times ''three points making a triangle'', I saw it on indo persian blades but I don't know for these... Kind regards Attached Images

24th May 2018, 06:44 PM	#8
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Here the handle and the upper view of the blade, An heavy blade, 34 inches long Attached Images

24th May 2018, 10:05 PM	#9
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	A site talking about indian swords: The blade appears to be a native pattern welded blade with rubbed 'eyelash' quality markings. These markings are finished with rubbed groups of three dots to each end and 7cms from the centre of this grouping are found clear groupings of three dots - a common theme on many Indian blades. Attached Images

23rd May 2018, 07:04 PM	#3
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	For the handle, Old or recent repairs ? Thank you

23rd May 2018, 09:00 PM	#5
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Ok ! Thanks, I'll make it and post it tomorrow ! ( Daylight will be better !)

24th May 2018, 12:32 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	From what I can tell, the hilt looks like wood and the hilt plates look like either copper or brass. The mark sortive looks like a running fox. If it is, then the blade was made in Solingen, Germany (if my memory is correct).

25th May 2018, 05:50 PM	#10
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Solingen had a running wolf, but it does not matter if it looks like a fox or a wolf. The point is, that this, and many other European marks, were copied in India - with arms and legs as we say in Denmark - meaning a lot. The blade is, unfortunately, scratched quite a lot, so the pattern is not clear, but the repeated three dots marks, makes me think it could be an Indian trade blade. The dots representing the three main gods in India.