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This item, just finished in EBay, the seller didn,t know the origin f the piece but to me seems a piece from Philippines. The full length is 12 inches and the blade itself is 7" in length.
The pictures ar3e from seller. Any comments are wellcome best regards carlos I´m trying to insert pictures directly but I can,t, so I write link to ebay http://www.ebay.es/itm/251341436121?...84.m1497.l2649 |
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The images just needed to be resized to upload Carlos.
![]() Never seen anything quite like it, but the wood carvings look SEA. That cross piece/guard doesn't look particularly Filipino, but it also doesn't look original to the piece since it appears to narrow where it meets the blade. Many of the elements seem a bit European, so perhaps a Spanish blade made in the Philippines? ![]() |
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Thanks David !!
My knowledge of computers are very low ![]() The carvings in hilt remember me another philippino pieces. Thanks Carlos |
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Yes, i agree, the vegetal carvings in the wood are very SEA, but the all the metal fittings smack of European influence.
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Well this piece I feel is Filipino. This type of wavy blade indicates an Ilocano origin to me. It therefore would not surprise me at all that there would be Spanish influence in it. Not only common but expected.
Also the scabbard being horn and carved in this fashion indicate Luzon Island, where the Ilocanos live. Obviously someone wealthy owned this due to the quality of workmanship and the silver work involved. I hope whoever got this will post here. |
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Thanks José, so it's horn then...i didn't read the auction description...
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Thank you very much !! Yor information is very valous to me. I promise when I received dagger put more pictures. Thanks again Carlos Ah Thank you very much too to the rest of people have comment, all comments are wellcome |
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Hello again
The last week I received dagger andf I´m very happy with this new piece, I wish enjoy pictures. Best regards carlos |
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Hi Carlos,
a real beauty! ![]() ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10062
I have posted the comparison here because the first post was in the european forum Thanks Carlos |
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Well the one beside it does not have the SEA flairs that show in this smaller dagger, that is the wonderful vegetal carvings on the sheath and hilt. I wouldn't have placed the larger blade in the region of the Philippines viewing it on its own. Placed together though these two daggers seem to almost undeniably be of the same origin. That begs the question, is the larger dagger from the Philippines and simply lacking any motifs from the area or is the smaller dagger actually European with some exotic SEA flair added for interest. I frankly don't know the answer and for me the origins of both these blades is still up in the air.
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