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5th March 2011, 04:48 AM
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Khayber
This interesting Khyber has long been bought at Artzi. What can you say about it? Clearly, it is not typical for Afghanistan. What do you think, where it was made? And that written on it?
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6th March 2011, 04:00 PM
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Any opinions on this?
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7th March 2011, 09:28 AM
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7th March 2011, 10:15 PM
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Afghanistan. I'm very interested to hear any ideas from you where it could be done (if in India in which region)? As well it's not in afghan traditions to make a tugra on the blade (by the way could you be so kind to give me an idea about what does this inscription means). Looking forward to hear from you |
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7th March 2011, 10:42 PM
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What did Oriental Arms write about it?
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8th March 2011, 04:30 AM
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The blade of this Khyber sword is marked with gold inlay (Dot inlay) stamp with a maker sign and the date 1220 (1805 in the Gregorian Calendar). Blade length 23 inches. The handle as well as the scabbard fittings are made of beautifully chased copper, with traces of old gilding. Original leather cover of the scabbard. Total length 30 1/2 inches. Very good plus condition. http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=2788 |
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9th March 2011, 02:03 AM
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with the risk to temperate your pleasure  I have some comments about the digits translation's - if they is no doubt about the digit 1 (one) and 3 (three) - I'm curious to know where have been read the digit 0 (zero) ??  - the fourth digit, if it's a digit, might be (under reserve) 4 (four) according with me, I thought that it's a (rudimentary) "magic square" and not a datation a name has been translated; AL GUERI, name without meaning sorry to be touchy, but I like the precision all the best à + Dom ******************************* I MUST CORRECT my post on above, I'm WRONG I found strange that "Artzi" could provide some precision (I respect their real professionalism) without basic I examined more acutely the picture ... and I found the date  hope so that "Artzi" will accept my apologizes with my best regards Dom Last edited by Dom; 9th March 2011 at 02:21 AM. |
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9th March 2011, 04:51 AM
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Thanks, Dom! Could the inscription AL GUERI be the name of the owner of Khyber?
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9th March 2011, 12:45 PM
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 - name for the owner or the blacksmith ?? very good the question ...  as per as no more mention ... only God knows à + Dom |
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10th March 2011, 04:50 AM
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Thank you very much, Dom! 
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11th March 2011, 04:52 AM
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So where could this be done Khyber? Jens, Jim, your opinions?
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13th March 2011, 10:10 AM
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Any opinions??
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13th March 2011, 11:11 PM
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I am not quite sure what you want me to answer to - please be more specific.
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14th March 2011, 01:10 PM
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Jens, I think Mahratt wanted an opinion on where this Khyber was produced, i.e. its origin. It has Indian and Afghani features, and it'd be safe to say it is Indo-Afghani:-) Also, the cartouche type is not uncommon for these regions.
Mahratt, it cannot be called "tughra" by the way. "tughra" is exclusively Ottoman mark. |
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14th March 2011, 02:19 PM
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Hi Mahratt,
Alex thanks for the clarifying. I am with you when it comes to the Indian-Afghani origin, and I am with Dom when it comes to the square, as I too think it may be some kind of magic square. The dot marking is seen now and again, but not so often. Jens |
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19th March 2011, 10:55 PM
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Thank you very much to all! |
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