Handgonne from Otepaa. Estonia

Spiridonov · 30th July 2009, 11:01 PM

Otepää handgun- the oldest handheld firearm in the world

The earth of the Otepää hill hides the secrets of the old times and several valuable findings some of which have also been dug out under the instruction the archeologist Osvald Saare in 1950-1974. The greatest amount of valuable findings was discovered in the layer of the ruins of the medieval stone castle. The castle was reduced to ruins probably in the end of the 14th century in the course of the war between the Bishop of Tartu and the Livonian Order.

In the second half of 1396 the army of the Livonian Order sieged Otepää. They probably managed to set the castle on fire. The wooden parts of the castle evidently blazed so vigorously that even the brick walls of the buildings collapsed. Treasures were left under the ruins: the silverware of the Holy Communion from the chapel of the castle, books decorated with silver studs and pieces of rock crystals, grand suites of armour etc.

Next to those relatively rare findings the pieces of a bronze barrel that at first seems quite simple, deserves special attention. It was possible to fit the pieces together by their edges and so they reconstructed the gun that had been used more than 600 years ago ().

Originally the barrel of the gun was about 175 mm long and the caliber of its metal part was measured 18 mm, but the caliber of the gunpowder chamber was a bit bigger (). About a meter-long simple wooden stock was probably fastened to the back part of the barrel that was a bit wider at the time. The gun had another interesting addition. In casting it a cavity was left in the middle of the bottom side, it was for a special iron bar or the so-called hook. The extending tip of the latter was pressed against the wall in order to absorb recoil when firing the gun.

Gunpowder and the bullet were inserted in the breech of the barrel, then gunpowder was also sprinkled into the ignition channel on top and the handgun was ready to be used. At that time they still used a glowing iron bar or slowmatch to ignite it, although at times they already used a fuse as well. When firing the sparks, flames of fire and a good cloud of smoke flew out of the barrel and the ignition channel. Probably this is why the butt was probably rested above the shoulder (). Such a shooting position can also be seen in some pictures from the 15th century depicting gunmen.

When were the first guns fired?

The first simple guns were tested already in 1320ies in Italy, Germany, England and may be in some other Western-European countries. In approximately 1326 an English priest Walter de Milimete depicted in a few pictures of his manuscript a few vase-shaped objects laid on a bench, and a dart could be seen in the mouth of the objects. An ear-splitting bang, flames of fire and the dart that flew out probably had to leave the impression to the enemy of the intervention of heavenly forces. In written sources they have also been called the arms of thunder. Soon also bigger fire barrels or cannons were made that used stone shots.

The first guns were made based on the scarce hints found in written sources some time in the third quarter of the 14rg century. However, the drawings of those guns have not been preserved. Though different museums in the world possess altogether about 20 primitive guns both forged of iron or cast in bronze, majority of those have been obtained in accidental findings and that is why they are difficult to date. Ordinarily such firearms are presumed to originate from the end of the 14th century – the first quarter of the 15th century. Among the more precisely dated guns the oldest one was considered to be the bronze gun found in the Tannenberg stronghold in Germany that remained under the ruins when the fort was destroyed in 1399. Let’s recall however, that the Otepää gun had surely been buried under the ruins in the second half of 1396 and thus is at least 3 years older.

Who was the master?

It is very difficult to locate the place where the Otepää gun was made. Tartu, the center of the diocese, had very close connections with the hanseatic towns in Western Europe. Furthermore, at that time the governing bishop Dietrich Damerow who organized a coalition against the Livonian Order, had entered into a martial alliance with the dukes of Pommern-Stettin and Mecklenburg and the Lithuanian Grand Duke Vytautas. He even invited about 500 Vitalienbrüder (Vital Brothers) who were above all known as the pirates sailing on the Baltic Sea to come to Tartu to help.

Next to the possibilities that the Otepää gun was imported, one also has to pay attention to the gunsmiths in Estonia. One medieval document may have mentioned a firearm for the first time in Tallinn already in 1346 (using the Latin word pixis). When comparing with the closest neighbours it is a surprisingly early notice, most likely it is the oldest in the whole Northern-Europe.

In 1378 the Tallinn town council already bought a smaller cannon to protect the town. Johannes Schütten worked in Tallinn in 1381, schuttemeker Rübeke in 1386 and schuttemester Olaf Lisa only a year later – and the job titles make it undoubtedly certain that those men were responsible for shooting and taking care of the firearms. However, it is very likely that they themselves made a gun or a cannon for a change. In fact a letter sent from the town council in Riga to Tallinn on 18th November 1384 hints at it, as the letter recommends that the town council discuss the matter of not allowing townspeople to make or cast fire barrels to shoot arrows for the people living outside the town boundaries. Thus the activities of the local gunsmiths already had to have been well known in Riga.

The firearms may have been made also in Tartu. Unfortunately majority of the written sources of that hanseatic town has been destroyed in the later wars. We find an interesting notice from Latvia, however, where it has been said that in 1411/1412 Riga bought a cannon made in Tartu, and a year later bought another gun of the same origin. In is unlikely that the work of gunsmiths in Tartu brought about such widespread fame only in a few years.

Of the value of the Otepää gun

The gun under discussion differs clearly from the firearm preserved in other places. Since the Otepää one is relatively easy to date, that very fire barrel possesses a significant role in specifying the whole course of development of the hand firearms. So far the hook guns were thought to have been invented in the first decades of the 15th century. The Otepää gun definitely dates the innovation back to the end of the 14th century. Because of the way the hook has been positioned the gun under observation is completely unique – it shows the first pursuits and experiments of the masters.

Another unique feature in the Otepää gun is a small plate mounted on the surface of the gun that could have been pushed in front of the ignition channel when needed. That and the gun’s moderate weight (743 grams) show clearly that lightweight portable guns came to be used about 20 years earlier that previously thought. The unique features mentioned make one consider the possibility that the Otepää gun may have been made by a gunsmith working in Estonia.

In conclusion I have to stress that the gun examined here is definitely not the first gun in the world, but it is the oldest among the hand firearms we have today that can be dated more precisely.

Ain Mäesalu

VANDOO · 7th August 2009, 07:27 AM

IT IS INTERESTING THE SIMULAR FEATURES OF THIS GUN TO THE SMALL SWIVEL GUNS OR CANNONS (LANTKAS) USED ON SHIPS. IT HAS THE HOOK TO HOOK OVER THE WALL WHICH ON THE SHIPS GUNS WOULD CORESPOND TO THE PART THAT STUCK DOWN IN A SOCKET OR FITTING. IT HAS THE HOLE AT THE BACK TO INSERT A POLE TO USE TO TURN AND POINT IT AND ALSO PLACE THE ONE FIREING IT AT A SAFER DISTANCE. THE TOUCH HOLE OR FLASH PAN WITH A COVER HINTS AT THE LATER FLINT OR MATCH LOCK WITH THEIR FLASH PANS. A VERY INTERESTING ARTEFACT FROM A VERY NICE COUNTRY WHICH I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO VISIT IN 1989 IF I REMEMBER CORRETLY, WHEN WE PLAYED AMERICAN FOOTBALL IN TALLEN.

Matchlock · 10th August 2009, 03:10 PM

Hi Spiridonov,

I have taken my time and pondered thoroughly over the Otepää handgun.

1. Even if it was made in the late 14th century - which I doubt very much - it could not be called the world's oldest handgun. This attribute is undoubtedly linked to the Loshult gun which closely resembles the earliest illustration of a gun found in the de Milemete manuscript, Christ Church, Oxford, which is dated 1326. The Loshult gun should be dated ca. 1350.

2. As discussed at large in earlier posts, the presence of hooks cannot be proven before the 1430's.

3. The presence of pan like mouldings around the touch hole seems to be an invention of the second half of the 15th century.

4. Although the Otepää gun is in heavily damaged condition now I should give a tentative date of ca. 1440-50 for it, with the longitudinal pan moulding being a later working addition.

Michael

Spiridonov · 10th August 2009, 04:40 PM

thank you for answear

Spiridonov · 9th November 2011, 07:56 PM

I am still thinking about this barrel. You have given a tentative date as 1440-50. So how he was able to get under the ruins if castle has been destroyed in 1396 year?...

Matchlock · 10th November 2011, 03:06 PM

Hi Alexander,

I guess this was for a similar same reason as the famous Tannenberg gun was found in a well belonging to the ruins of a castle destroyed in 1399.

Just because a certain place was destroyed in a certain year, the possibility that some decades later somebody came by those ruins and probably tried to explore them cannot be a priori excluded. Then it might have been the case that our visitor either stumbled and fell, the handgonne falling deep down under the ruins, or that he was surprised by somebody else and lost his gun in combat.

Anyway, there is no doubt that both the Tannenberg gun and the Otepää gun were actually not made before the first half of the 15th century, ca. 1420-30 by the earliest, as I pointed out in a former post. So how it came they were both found between earlier ruins is completely left to speculation - dissatisfying as it may be.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 22nd January 2012, 10:31 PM

Weapons in Otepaa castle
http://michael-engel.io.ua/album323940

cannonmn · 23rd January 2012, 01:15 AM

Are there more photos of the excavated piece than the one I see? I'd need many more photos, close up, to get an idea of the beast under consideration. I wouldn't have such a big problem with it if it only had one departure from "conventional" contemporary gun design, but the fact that it has several significant differences causes its identification as any kind of a gun to be somewhat suspect. It reminds me somewhat of the strange industrial residue that is being offerred on Ebay these days as "nine hole cannons" or whatever.

Spiridonov · 23rd January 2012, 06:22 PM

http://www.archaeologychannel.org/co...nne_700kW.html

cannonmn · 23rd January 2012, 07:35 PM

Thanks, I watched most of the video, containing only a few seconds showing the excavated material at around the 5 minute mark. I'd certainly like to see much more detail of the fragments found. I think one could assemble them in such a fashion as to make what resembles a stopcock, or arrange them a bit differently to resemble a gate latch, or a waterspout for a fountain.

Paddy T. · 29th July 2018, 10:36 PM

There are new informations about the excarvations in Otepää since a few years. In fact the terminus ante quem of 1396 can´t be sustained any longer. Finds of coins and pottery suggest a decline of the castle in the first half of the 15th century, so the gun maybe dates within this period, too.

30th July 2009, 11:01 PM	#1
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Handgonne from Otepaa. Estonia Otepää handgun- the oldest handheld firearm in the world The earth of the Otepää hill hides the secrets of the old times and several valuable findings some of which have also been dug out under the instruction the archeologist Osvald Saare in 1950-1974. The greatest amount of valuable findings was discovered in the layer of the ruins of the medieval stone castle. The castle was reduced to ruins probably in the end of the 14th century in the course of the war between the Bishop of Tartu and the Livonian Order. In the second half of 1396 the army of the Livonian Order sieged Otepää. They probably managed to set the castle on fire. The wooden parts of the castle evidently blazed so vigorously that even the brick walls of the buildings collapsed. Treasures were left under the ruins: the silverware of the Holy Communion from the chapel of the castle, books decorated with silver studs and pieces of rock crystals, grand suites of armour etc. Next to those relatively rare findings the pieces of a bronze barrel that at first seems quite simple, deserves special attention. It was possible to fit the pieces together by their edges and so they reconstructed the gun that had been used more than 600 years ago (). Originally the barrel of the gun was about 175 mm long and the caliber of its metal part was measured 18 mm, but the caliber of the gunpowder chamber was a bit bigger (). About a meter-long simple wooden stock was probably fastened to the back part of the barrel that was a bit wider at the time. The gun had another interesting addition. In casting it a cavity was left in the middle of the bottom side, it was for a special iron bar or the so-called hook. The extending tip of the latter was pressed against the wall in order to absorb recoil when firing the gun. Gunpowder and the bullet were inserted in the breech of the barrel, then gunpowder was also sprinkled into the ignition channel on top and the handgun was ready to be used. At that time they still used a glowing iron bar or slowmatch to ignite it, although at times they already used a fuse as well. When firing the sparks, flames of fire and a good cloud of smoke flew out of the barrel and the ignition channel. Probably this is why the butt was probably rested above the shoulder (). Such a shooting position can also be seen in some pictures from the 15th century depicting gunmen. When were the first guns fired? The first simple guns were tested already in 1320ies in Italy, Germany, England and may be in some other Western-European countries. In approximately 1326 an English priest Walter de Milimete depicted in a few pictures of his manuscript a few vase-shaped objects laid on a bench, and a dart could be seen in the mouth of the objects. An ear-splitting bang, flames of fire and the dart that flew out probably had to leave the impression to the enemy of the intervention of heavenly forces. In written sources they have also been called the arms of thunder. Soon also bigger fire barrels or cannons were made that used stone shots. The first guns were made based on the scarce hints found in written sources some time in the third quarter of the 14rg century. However, the drawings of those guns have not been preserved. Though different museums in the world possess altogether about 20 primitive guns both forged of iron or cast in bronze, majority of those have been obtained in accidental findings and that is why they are difficult to date. Ordinarily such firearms are presumed to originate from the end of the 14th century – the first quarter of the 15th century. Among the more precisely dated guns the oldest one was considered to be the bronze gun found in the Tannenberg stronghold in Germany that remained under the ruins when the fort was destroyed in 1399. Let’s recall however, that the Otepää gun had surely been buried under the ruins in the second half of 1396 and thus is at least 3 years older. Who was the master? It is very difficult to locate the place where the Otepää gun was made. Tartu, the center of the diocese, had very close connections with the hanseatic towns in Western Europe. Furthermore, at that time the governing bishop Dietrich Damerow who organized a coalition against the Livonian Order, had entered into a martial alliance with the dukes of Pommern-Stettin and Mecklenburg and the Lithuanian Grand Duke Vytautas. He even invited about 500 Vitalienbrüder (Vital Brothers) who were above all known as the pirates sailing on the Baltic Sea to come to Tartu to help. Next to the possibilities that the Otepää gun was imported, one also has to pay attention to the gunsmiths in Estonia. One medieval document may have mentioned a firearm for the first time in Tallinn already in 1346 (using the Latin word pixis). When comparing with the closest neighbours it is a surprisingly early notice, most likely it is the oldest in the whole Northern-Europe. In 1378 the Tallinn town council already bought a smaller cannon to protect the town. Johannes Schütten worked in Tallinn in 1381, schuttemeker Rübeke in 1386 and schuttemester Olaf Lisa only a year later – and the job titles make it undoubtedly certain that those men were responsible for shooting and taking care of the firearms. However, it is very likely that they themselves made a gun or a cannon for a change. In fact a letter sent from the town council in Riga to Tallinn on 18th November 1384 hints at it, as the letter recommends that the town council discuss the matter of not allowing townspeople to make or cast fire barrels to shoot arrows for the people living outside the town boundaries. Thus the activities of the local gunsmiths already had to have been well known in Riga. The firearms may have been made also in Tartu. Unfortunately majority of the written sources of that hanseatic town has been destroyed in the later wars. We find an interesting notice from Latvia, however, where it has been said that in 1411/1412 Riga bought a cannon made in Tartu, and a year later bought another gun of the same origin. In is unlikely that the work of gunsmiths in Tartu brought about such widespread fame only in a few years. Of the value of the Otepää gun The gun under discussion differs clearly from the firearm preserved in other places. Since the Otepää one is relatively easy to date, that very fire barrel possesses a significant role in specifying the whole course of development of the hand firearms. So far the hook guns were thought to have been invented in the first decades of the 15th century. The Otepää gun definitely dates the innovation back to the end of the 14th century. Because of the way the hook has been positioned the gun under observation is completely unique – it shows the first pursuits and experiments of the masters. Another unique feature in the Otepää gun is a small plate mounted on the surface of the gun that could have been pushed in front of the ignition channel when needed. That and the gun’s moderate weight (743 grams) show clearly that lightweight portable guns came to be used about 20 years earlier that previously thought. The unique features mentioned make one consider the possibility that the Otepää gun may have been made by a gunsmith working in Estonia. In conclusion I have to stress that the gun examined here is definitely not the first gun in the world, but it is the oldest among the hand firearms we have today that can be dated more precisely. Ain Mäesalu Attached Images Last edited by Spiridonov; 31st July 2009 at 05:54 AM.

10th August 2009, 03:10 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Spiridonov, I have taken my time and pondered thoroughly over the Otepää handgun. 1. Even if it was made in the late 14th century - which I doubt very much - it could not be called the world's oldest handgun. This attribute is undoubtedly linked to the Loshult gun which closely resembles the earliest illustration of a gun found in the de Milemete manuscript, Christ Church, Oxford, which is dated 1326. The Loshult gun should be dated ca. 1350. 2. As discussed at large in earlier posts, the presence of hooks cannot be proven before the 1430's. 3. The presence of pan like mouldings around the touch hole seems to be an invention of the second half of the 15th century. 4. Although the Otepää gun is in heavily damaged condition now I should give a tentative date of ca. 1440-50 for it, with the longitudinal pan moulding being a later working addition. Michael Attached Images

7th August 2009, 07:27 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IT IS INTERESTING THE SIMULAR FEATURES OF THIS GUN TO THE SMALL SWIVEL GUNS OR CANNONS (LANTKAS) USED ON SHIPS. IT HAS THE HOOK TO HOOK OVER THE WALL WHICH ON THE SHIPS GUNS WOULD CORESPOND TO THE PART THAT STUCK DOWN IN A SOCKET OR FITTING. IT HAS THE HOLE AT THE BACK TO INSERT A POLE TO USE TO TURN AND POINT IT AND ALSO PLACE THE ONE FIREING IT AT A SAFER DISTANCE. THE TOUCH HOLE OR FLASH PAN WITH A COVER HINTS AT THE LATER FLINT OR MATCH LOCK WITH THEIR FLASH PANS. A VERY INTERESTING ARTEFACT FROM A VERY NICE COUNTRY WHICH I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO VISIT IN 1989 IF I REMEMBER CORRETLY, WHEN WE PLAYED AMERICAN FOOTBALL IN TALLEN.

10th August 2009, 04:40 PM	#4
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	thank you for answear

9th November 2011, 07:56 PM	#5
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	I am still thinking about this barrel. You have given a tentative date as 1440-50. So how he was able to get under the ruins if castle has been destroyed in 1396 year?...

10th November 2011, 03:06 PM	#6
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Alexander, I guess this was for a similar same reason as the famous Tannenberg gun was found in a well belonging to the ruins of a castle destroyed in 1399. Just because a certain place was destroyed in a certain year, the possibility that some decades later somebody came by those ruins and probably tried to explore them cannot be a priori excluded. Then it might have been the case that our visitor either stumbled and fell, the handgonne falling deep down under the ruins, or that he was surprised by somebody else and lost his gun in combat. Anyway, there is no doubt that both the Tannenberg gun and the Otepää gun were actually not made before the first half of the 15th century, ca. 1420-30 by the earliest, as I pointed out in a former post. So how it came they were both found between earlier ruins is completely left to speculation - dissatisfying as it may be. Best, Michael

22nd January 2012, 10:31 PM	#7
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Weapons in Otepaa castle http://michael-engel.io.ua/album323940

23rd January 2012, 01:15 AM	#8
cannonmn Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 161	Are there more photos of the excavated piece than the one I see? I'd need many more photos, close up, to get an idea of the beast under consideration. I wouldn't have such a big problem with it if it only had one departure from "conventional" contemporary gun design, but the fact that it has several significant differences causes its identification as any kind of a gun to be somewhat suspect. It reminds me somewhat of the strange industrial residue that is being offerred on Ebay these days as "nine hole cannons" or whatever.

23rd January 2012, 06:22 PM	#9
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	http://www.archaeologychannel.org/co...nne_700kW.html

23rd January 2012, 07:35 PM	#10
cannonmn Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 161	Thanks, I watched most of the video, containing only a few seconds showing the excavated material at around the 5 minute mark. I'd certainly like to see much more detail of the fragments found. I think one could assemble them in such a fashion as to make what resembles a stopcock, or arrange them a bit differently to resemble a gate latch, or a waterspout for a fountain.

29th July 2018, 10:36 PM	#11
Paddy T. Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Germany Posts: 13	There are new informations about the excarvations in Otepää since a few years. In fact the terminus ante quem of 1396 can´t be sustained any longer. Finds of coins and pottery suggest a decline of the castle in the first half of the 15th century, so the gun maybe dates within this period, too.