Interesting Wootz Tulwar for comment

Atlantia · 15th November 2010, 12:12 AM

I've bought another Tulwar for my own collection. It has a long slender Shamshir type blade, Silver foil covered hilt, overall length is approx 36".
It has some interesting points, the weight is on the heavy side, at 1100g. The hilt is slightly larger than I'm used to. The quillions are slightly asymetric with one having a very pronounced dome end and the other much flatter, as though there was meant to be a knuckle bow, but the plating shows otherwise. Blade has some intersting features also, tightly grained wootz, very rigid, a couple of flaws in the wootz.
Overall this feels like an earlier examle than I usually see (and have owned).
Comments/information most welcome.

carlitobrigante · 15th November 2010, 04:05 PM

no info i can give mate other than to say nice sword!

Atlantia · 15th November 2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by carlitobrigante

no info i can give mate other than to say nice sword!

Ello mate!

Thank you very much.

Hopefully it will engender some discussion.
Perhaps some daylight pictures will help?

carlitobrigante · 15th November 2010, 09:56 PM

blade looks in very good shape, a nice long blade too..

thats a fair old chunk of wootz going on right there

the silver foil covered hilt uncommon on these? cant remember seeing it before on the admittedly few ive seen.

Atlantia · 15th November 2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by carlitobrigante

blade looks in very good shape, a nice long blade too..

thats a fair old chunk of wootz going on right there

the silver foil covered hilt uncommon on these? cant remember seeing it before on the admittedly few ive seen.

Well, I've had a fully silvered hilt before, but it had a shortened and rather wide european trade blade.
This hilt has really thick silver on it. Sadly there is a lot of bubbles on the other side and inside the top of the disk there are some losses, but I guess it could be worse.
The blade has a strangely 'oval' cross section. It looks well worn at first glance, and the cutting edge looks as though it must have been sharpened many many times.
But when you examine it, there are no signs of sharpening, no deep scratches, it looks like it was made that way. A strange and interesting piece for me.
Compared with some of the pieces we see shown here, it is rather plain and ordinary. But I have faith in its age and it feels like a true warrior.

Best
Gene

Rick · 16th November 2010, 01:13 AM

Yes mate, it could be much worse .

Blacksmith · 16th November 2010, 01:23 AM

Hello, I bought a similar tulwar last year when I was traveling in India, from Udaipur, Rajasthan. The blade is like yours with same kind of wootz, mine only has a scarf welding near the hilt. There has been also a silver plating on the hilt, now almost gone. I saw a lot of tulwars like that ( a pile of them...), the blades with "worn out" of style. The seller said ( an antique dealer) that this kind of tulwars are easy to find in Rajasthan and the blade style is typical on Rajasthan tulwars. His opinion was that these are from end of 1700, beginning of 1800. I paid 120 euros of mine..

15th November 2010, 12:12 AM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Interesting Wootz Tulwar for comment (another) I've bought another Tulwar for my own collection. It has a long slender Shamshir type blade, Silver foil covered hilt, overall length is approx 36". It has some interesting points, the weight is on the heavy side, at 1100g. The hilt is slightly larger than I'm used to. The quillions are slightly asymetric with one having a very pronounced dome end and the other much flatter, as though there was meant to be a knuckle bow, but the plating shows otherwise. Blade has some intersting features also, tightly grained wootz, very rigid, a couple of flaws in the wootz. Overall this feels like an earlier examle than I usually see (and have owned). Comments/information most welcome. Attached Images Last edited by Atlantia; 15th November 2010 at 09:12 AM.

16th November 2010, 01:13 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Yes mate, it could be much worse . Attached Images

15th November 2010, 04:05 PM	#2
carlitobrigante Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Solihull, UK Posts: 81	no info i can give mate other than to say nice sword!

15th November 2010, 09:56 PM	#4
carlitobrigante Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Solihull, UK Posts: 81	blade looks in very good shape, a nice long blade too.. thats a fair old chunk of wootz going on right there the silver foil covered hilt uncommon on these? cant remember seeing it before on the admittedly few ive seen.

16th November 2010, 01:23 AM	#7
Blacksmith Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 98	Hello, I bought a similar tulwar last year when I was traveling in India, from Udaipur, Rajasthan. The blade is like yours with same kind of wootz, mine only has a scarf welding near the hilt. There has been also a silver plating on the hilt, now almost gone. I saw a lot of tulwars like that ( a pile of them...), the blades with "worn out" of style. The seller said ( an antique dealer) that this kind of tulwars are easy to find in Rajasthan and the blade style is typical on Rajasthan tulwars. His opinion was that these are from end of 1700, beginning of 1800. I paid 120 euros of mine..