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good afternoon, please help with attribution of this blade,
If possible, tell me what kind of hilt should be for this blade. with respect. the shank is reground, and there are later graffiti on the blade than those in the photo |
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Wow, we don't have much to go on with this one! I know that 6-sided blades such as this were very popular with Spanish swords of the 17th-early 19th century. Curiously, although fitted for Spanish swords, most of the blades at that time were made in Germany for export. If we assume it is made for the Spanish market and of the time period mentioned, this blade would have been made most likely for a Spanish bilbo pattern cavalry sword or possibly a dish/cup hilt broadsword. The markings tell us little, as the sun and moon symbols are used throughout Europe. This is just my opinion and I'll open the floor for others now!
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I do not think this is for Spanish use. I would say German made for France or a minor German State. With the style of the ricasso, early XIX century. You do not give measurements but it could have been cut down.
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good afternoon, thanks for the discussion,
dimensions: total length 85 cm. width at the base 27 mm. thickness at the base is 9 mm. with respect Last edited by Elmereya; 27th April 2021 at 11:44 AM. |
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there are such museum swords dating from the graffiti on the blades in 1710, I'm not sure what can be compared with mine, but very similar in structure, the blades are probably also Solingen, for Russia?
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here is one
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here is the second one, I like it better
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the first of these swords is in a museum in Belarus. second sword in the museum of Ukraine,
if anyone needs a link to an article about these swords, I can give. I gave them as a similar example, please discuss mine .. with respect |
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I could not find a single sword with a similar blade, except for these,
maybe someone has a photo of a sword with a similar blade? please share .. with respect |
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good afternoon, below Solingen and 1710
with respect Last edited by Elmereya; 29th April 2021 at 08:32 AM. |
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Then the inscription must refer to Tsar Peter the Great. That sword must be desirable to Russian collectors. Swedish swords from the Great Nordic War command very high market prices.
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The person who posted the photo says it's in a Belorussian museum. Which one? He had posted several fake relic swords here previously. Are they also in a Belorussian museum? |
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Dmitriy ,
here is a link to the article from which I posted a photo, it is not translated into English, but I think you can read and explain your sarcasm https://docviewer.yandex.ru/view/533...89MCJ9&lang=ru |
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Dmitry, explain your position Last edited by Elmereya; 29th April 2021 at 10:14 PM. |
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Hello. This is outside of my usual scope of collecting but the sun reminds me of one I'm holding in to.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=17822 |
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Dmitry, you have a PM.
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on the blade at the beginning of the theme, the sun and on the ricasso, do I see two stylized knights facing each other, between them a table, a bridge or a basilica? (drawing of what is left) on top of this at a later time the number VII. if this image can be read differently, how? |
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I think that the blades of swords from museums that have shown in this topic come from the 17th century and had a ricasso-like blade at the beginning of the post and this sword with a basket hilt, and just converted at the beginning of the 18th century to be installed in a more fashionable hilt, (on the photo shows the remains of ricasso)
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The blade you posted is narrow, suited more for an officer's sword than a munitions grade weapon. Any of those brass hilts would work. Good luck! |
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Ok , your opinion is clear, thanks for defining the blade
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