Discovery Channel -- "Keris: The Myth & The Magic"

migueldiaz · 21st August 2009, 12:55 AM

Hello all

I just saw last night (20 Aug., 10 pm, Manila time) the subject 60-minute documentary. Don't know much about kerises, thus I found it quite interesting!

For those in Southeast Asia, please find below the sked (note also that Bajau Lauts will be featured soon).

For those in US and Europe, am not quite sure if this series [Enigmatic Malaysia] is shown over there.

In any case, hope y'all

get to watch this docu somehow ...

Rick · 21st August 2009, 01:20 AM

Record it Miguel .
DVR .

KuKulzA28 · 21st August 2009, 01:56 AM

I don't see it on the Discovery Channel schedule... maybe it's not on for USA folks?

fearn · 21st August 2009, 02:49 AM

Not seeing it here in the US. Looks like we get "verminator" instead. Sigh.

KuKulzA28 · 21st August 2009, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fearn

Not seeing it here in the US. Looks like we get "verminator" instead. Sigh.

HAHAHA, yup

David · 21st August 2009, 05:18 AM

Well i'm hoping that the quality of the show is a mite better than the "keris" they chose for the illustration of the show on this site.
http://www.astro.com.my/program/default.asp?i=29639&m=8
Would be cool to see though.

migueldiaz · 21st August 2009, 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Record it Miguel. DVR.

Rick, I'll see what I can do

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Well i'm hoping that the quality of the show is a mite better than the "keris" they chose for the illustration of the show on this site.
http://www.astro.com.my/program/default.asp?i=29639&m=8
Would be cool to see though.

David, I don't remember seeing that horrible

piece in the docu. Maybe it's a piece that Astro.com just came up with.

In any case as you said, it will be better if the keris experts in the forum can see the docu. For sure you'll be the better judge

PS - As the title suggests, the docu. is slanted towards the mystical aspect of the keris. But in the interviews of the keris makers & Malaysian collectors, the non-mystical (i.e., technical) aspects were mentioned as well.

PenangsangII · 21st August 2009, 11:23 AM

I saw it last nite..... to me it's nothing new.... sort of disappointed as well. The collecters depicted in the program were all "nothern peninsular" school... so nothing academic was expected

Alam Shah · 23rd August 2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Well i'm hoping that the quality of the show is a mite better than the "keris" they chose for the illustration of the show on this site.
http://www.astro.com.my/program/default.asp?i=29639&m=8
Would be cool to see though.

The "keris-like" object used in the illustration is a cheap souvenir item, commonly found in souvenir shops.. definitely not the type that we collect.

David · 23rd August 2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alam Shah

The "keris-like" object used in the illustration is a cheap souvenir item, commonly found in souvenir shops.. definitely not the type that we collect.

Aw c'mon Shahrial, don't tell me that....i just ordered 5 of these from eBay!

Rick · 23rd August 2009, 05:19 PM

Uhm Guys, I think that's a hood ornament .

The stand appears to be welded to the pendok .

David · 23rd August 2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Uhm Guys, I think that's a hood ornament .

Yes, but won't it look great when i weld it to the hood of my car!

Alam Shah · 23rd August 2009, 06:48 PM

Just saw the screening.. Overall, it's ok I guess, bearing in mind the scope, "The Myth and The Magic". One should see it from an anthropology viewpoint. Steep in legends, religion, cult culture and shamanism.. with interviews with some old kerismakers, collectors, professors and cultural observers.

However, I feel that the explanation of the myth and magic was too little for one whom is not familiar with the culture. Perhaps, the objective was just a brief intro..

Battara · 23rd August 2009, 07:04 PM

Sounds disappointing.........

migueldiaz · 23rd August 2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Record it Miguel. DVR.

As an aside, I don't have a DVR but I just found out that recording a cable TV broadcast is the easiest thing to do.

What I did was I bought this $35 image-capture USB. Then I just plugged it to the computer and hooked the other end to the TV cable (below).

Then voila I instantly have one more cable TV in the house by way of a computer. And I can now record any show I want, manually or via the program's timer function [the USB comes with a CD].

Thanks Rick, for pointing to me the way

Rick · 23rd August 2009, 10:50 PM

Where there is a will Migueldiaz , there is a way; you have proved it, great find !

migueldiaz · 24th August 2009, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Where there is a will Migueldiaz , there is a way; you have proved it, great find !

Thanks Rick! Here's a related docu re samurai swords. Then there's this other one on samurai bows.

Hope these episodes are also showing in NatGeo North America & Europe ...

PenangsangII · 25th August 2009, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alam Shah

Just saw the screening.. Overall, it's ok I guess, bearing in mind the scope, "The Myth and The Magic". One should see it from an anthropology viewpoint. Steep in legends, religion, cult culture and shamanism.. with interviews with some old kerismakers, collectors, professors and cultural observers.

However, I feel that the explanation of the myth and magic was too little for one whom is not familiar with the culture. Perhaps, the objective was just a brief intro..

I have to totally agree with Shahrial..... what a dissappointment. The producer had a good chance actually to expose the so-called Malaysian perspective of keris but he blew it

Alam Shah · 27th August 2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenangsangII

I have to totally agree with Shahrial..... what a dissappointment. The producer had a good chance actually to expose the so-called Malaysian perspective of keris but he blew it

To me, it's not a disappointment, but rather, could be made better..

perhaps exploring some of the malay keris forms such as the tajong, coteng.. the distinct terengganu malela, etc.. the use of javanese keris in some of the re-enactment scenes could be improved.. there was an instance, where a keris collector showed what seems to be a javanese naga piece with gold-work, talking about the origin of kinatah/tinatah works.. while here we are talking about malay legends, malay keris.. hmmm..

Rafngard · 8th May 2017, 09:52 PM

Just wanted to add that the passable documentary in its entirety seems to be on youtube now, with what I think are Malay subtitles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUNg_Ah2-XY

Have fun,
Leif

David · 9th May 2017, 03:20 AM

Thanks Leif...though i'm not so sure i'm really sorry i was unable to watch this sooner...

21st August 2009, 12:55 AM	#1
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Discovery Channel -- "Keris: The Myth & The Magic" Hello all I just saw last night (20 Aug., 10 pm, Manila time) the subject 60-minute documentary. Don't know much about kerises, thus I found it quite interesting! For those in Southeast Asia, please find below the sked (note also that Bajau Lauts will be featured soon). For those in US and Europe, am not quite sure if this series [Enigmatic Malaysia] is shown over there. In any case, hope y'all get to watch this docu somehow ... Attached Images

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Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Record it Miguel . DVR .

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KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	I don't see it on the Discovery Channel schedule... maybe it's not on for USA folks?

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fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Not seeing it here in the US. Looks like we get "verminator" instead. Sigh.

21st August 2009, 05:18 AM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,124	Well i'm hoping that the quality of the show is a mite better than the "keris" they chose for the illustration of the show on this site. http://www.astro.com.my/program/default.asp?i=29639&m=8 Would be cool to see though.

21st August 2009, 11:23 AM	#8
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	I saw it last nite..... to me it's nothing new.... sort of disappointed as well. The collecters depicted in the program were all "nothern peninsular" school... so nothing academic was expected

23rd August 2009, 05:19 PM	#11
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Uhm Guys, I think that's a hood ornament . The stand appears to be welded to the pendok .

23rd August 2009, 06:48 PM	#13
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Just saw the screening.. Overall, it's ok I guess, bearing in mind the scope, "The Myth and The Magic". One should see it from an anthropology viewpoint. Steep in legends, religion, cult culture and shamanism.. with interviews with some old kerismakers, collectors, professors and cultural observers. However, I feel that the explanation of the myth and magic was too little for one whom is not familiar with the culture. Perhaps, the objective was just a brief intro..

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Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Sounds disappointing.........

23rd August 2009, 10:50 PM	#16
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Where there is a will Migueldiaz , there is a way; you have proved it, great find !

8th May 2017, 09:52 PM	#20
Rafngard Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 340	Just wanted to add that the passable documentary in its entirety seems to be on youtube now, with what I think are Malay subtitles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUNg_Ah2-XY Have fun, Leif

9th May 2017, 03:20 AM	#21
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,124	Thanks Leif...though i'm not so sure i'm really sorry i was unable to watch this sooner...