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Old 30th November 2017, 11:13 PM   #1
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Default East Java? or Madura? Keris with strange Wrangka

Hello,

I have this very simple keris with atypical Wrangka.
The Kagok hilt and blade are very simple, the mendak is made of copper.
The seller dated the Kriss of the 1920s.

What is the origin of this unconventional wrangka?
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Old 1st December 2017, 12:08 AM   #2
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Material:- kayu glugu

Stylistically Jawa Timur

Lower level work, the sort of thing most collectors would refer to as village work, but it can also originate from a market place in a city or town, just not from a highly rated m'ranggi or tukang wrongko.
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Old 1st December 2017, 12:28 AM   #3
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Thank you.
I didn' choose this kriss for its blade, but for the Kagok handle (my first when I bought it) and the original shape of the scabbard (and a low price ...)
It may not be first quality but for me a collection of master piece doesn't represent the diversity of the word of Keris.
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Old 1st December 2017, 03:34 AM   #4
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Certainly Athanase, and I agree.

My comment on the quality level of the dress is not in any way criticism, it is simply objective appraisement.

In any truly representative collection, quality of items collected should span the range.
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Old 23rd December 2017, 03:24 PM   #5
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Thank you.
I didn' choose this kriss for its blade, but for the Kagok handle (my first when I bought it) and the original shape of the scabbard (and a low price ...)
It may not be first quality but for me a collection of master piece doesn't represent the diversity of the word of Keris.
If you hold the handle, do look more closely on the darker colour... is it original wood or filling or coloured wood.
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Old 23rd December 2017, 11:00 PM   #6
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I don't really know, the wood has naturally more dark areas. As for the totally black part it looks a little like a black resin filling natural hollow. But I am not sure.
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Old 24th December 2017, 01:53 AM   #7
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Based upon what I think I can see in the photos, I suspect these dark areas might be gum veins.
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