Trombone pistol with brass barrel and lockplate

corrado26 · 27th January 2019, 10:22 AM

Last week I got this pistol with a very nice brass barrel and a brass lockplate. Unfortunately it is not signed by its maker but the style of the barrel and the stock makes me think that it was made by CASSAIGNARD at Nantes. He is reported for the years 1774 to 1812.
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fernando · 27th January 2019, 11:27 AM

A rather interesting piece indeed, sir. No marks inside the lock plate or under the barrel ?

corrado26 · 27th January 2019, 01:22 PM

I dismantled the pistol: No, not a single sign or mark, really nothing

fernando · 27th January 2019, 01:33 PM

They say that, when a piece is not put out in the market but made by direct order of a client that knows well the smith, no marks are needed. Could this be the case ? ...

corrado26 · 27th January 2019, 01:58 PM

I think yes. The orderer tried in this case to minimize the costs, thats all.
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fernando · 27th January 2019, 02:37 PM

... But if you don't like it as it is, let me know; i don't mind keeping it myself

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NeilUK · 28th January 2019, 11:53 PM

Yes, an interesting pistol. I don't know anything about Cassaignard but the style certainly looks French. I believe that officers in the East India Company's troops often saved the cost of proofing their new pistols by having the maker send them directly to India so that they did not have to have them proofed. These pistols could be evidence of a similar sort of situation.
Neil

corrado26 · 29th January 2019, 06:19 PM

This type of pistol with its large muzzle has had certainly nothing to do with the Esat India Company. Cassaignard mainly produced these trombone pistoles for the use on bord of ships. For many a captain it was an impressiv tool against mutinous sailors.
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Richard G · 29th January 2019, 06:46 PM

I believe Nantes was the great slave-trading port of the French during that era.
Regards
Richard

NeilUK · 30th January 2019, 12:22 AM

I did not mean that this pistol was connected with the EIC. My comparison was with the owner saving money by not having his pistol proofed, as some EIC officers did.
Neil

27th January 2019, 10:22 AM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	Trombone pistol with brass barrel and lockplate Last week I got this pistol with a very nice brass barrel and a brass lockplate. Unfortunately it is not signed by its maker but the style of the barrel and the stock makes me think that it was made by CASSAIGNARD at Nantes. He is reported for the years 1774 to 1812. corrado26 Attached Images

27th January 2019, 11:27 AM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	A rather interesting piece indeed, sir. No marks inside the lock plate or under the barrel ?

27th January 2019, 01:22 PM	#3
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	I dismantled the pistol: No, not a single sign or mark, really nothing

27th January 2019, 01:33 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	They say that, when a piece is not put out in the market but made by direct order of a client that knows well the smith, no marks are needed. Could this be the case ? ...

27th January 2019, 01:58 PM	#5
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	I think yes. The orderer tried in this case to minimize the costs, thats all. corrado26

27th January 2019, 02:37 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	... But if you don't like it as it is, let me know; i don't mind keeping it myself .

28th January 2019, 11:53 PM	#7
NeilUK Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Scotland Posts: 125	Yes, an interesting pistol. I don't know anything about Cassaignard but the style certainly looks French. I believe that officers in the East India Company's troops often saved the cost of proofing their new pistols by having the maker send them directly to India so that they did not have to have them proofed. These pistols could be evidence of a similar sort of situation. Neil

29th January 2019, 06:19 PM	#8
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	This type of pistol with its large muzzle has had certainly nothing to do with the Esat India Company. Cassaignard mainly produced these trombone pistoles for the use on bord of ships. For many a captain it was an impressiv tool against mutinous sailors. corrado26

29th January 2019, 06:46 PM	#9
Richard G Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 405	I believe Nantes was the great slave-trading port of the French during that era. Regards Richard

30th January 2019, 12:22 AM	#10
NeilUK Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Scotland Posts: 125	I did not mean that this pistol was connected with the EIC. My comparison was with the owner saving money by not having his pistol proofed, as some EIC officers did. Neil