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Old 11th May 2014, 09:10 PM   #1
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Dear All,

I bought this kilij.
First, I think the scabbard doestn match well with the sword.
Because the guard has been replaced...

But my main question is why the blade is so shiny?
I was thinking that the blades are mat and dark...
Someone can help me to translate the inscription?
Could you help me with this sword and the blade?
I'm confused.

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Old 13th May 2014, 08:44 PM   #2
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No idea about the blade, style and inscription??
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Old 14th May 2014, 02:52 AM   #3
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What little can be seen from the photos suggests that the scabbard is replaced as well as the guard. The blade is Ottoman work but in European style, looks to have been polished or even plated. Notwithstanding, an Ottoman inscription is still visible.
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Old 14th May 2014, 11:00 AM   #4
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Thanks!!
Yes I agree.
It is plated.
But the blade is very good.
But is it common?
For the date, end of 18th or end of 19th?
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Old 14th May 2014, 04:00 PM   #5
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Inscription:

Amel-i Mehmed Ağa Sahib ve Malik Ahmed / Work of Mehmed Agha - Owner Ahmed
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Old 15th May 2014, 12:13 PM   #6
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Thank you much!!

Is it Turkish or Arabic?
Especially for the titles...
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Old 15th May 2014, 08:27 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Kubur
Thank you much!!

Is it Turkish or Arabic?
Especially for the titles...
Turkish or rather Ottoman, the title Agha mostly denotes membership to the Ottoman military class, and the formula "amel-i ......., sahib ve malik ....." is found in ottoman made weapons.
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Old 15th May 2014, 10:10 PM   #8
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Thank you very much zifir
If I may I have a Yatagan.
Do you have an idea on the inscription.
I was reading a date on the side...
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