Jakarta

cedric Le Dauphin · 19th March 2010, 10:46 AM

Hi! everyone
I'll be passing through Indonesia the next weeks.
Mainly Singapore Jakarta and Bali. The trip in not long enough to visit other islands this time.
Any advise about must see? keris related of course!
best regards to all
Cedric

Amuk Murugul · 19th March 2010, 11:13 AM

Hullo everybody

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- Pasar Rawabening
- Sanggar Sedayu, Rawamangun
- Sanggar Sugiri, Pasar Minggu
- Sanggar Djumadi, Pasar Seni Ancol
- Museum Pusaka etc., Taman Mini Indonesia Indah

Hope this helps.

Best,

David · 19th March 2010, 03:08 PM

Cedric, please forgive my intense jealousy.

ganjawulung · 19th March 2010, 04:45 PM

Which date, Cedric?
Unfortunately, this 21st-28th of March next week I would be out of Jakarta, to Basel, Barcelona and ... en France.
But I would suggest you -- as I suggest to everyone who spends a couple of days in Jakarta -- to visit The National Museum of Jakarta (Museum Nasional) at Jalan (street) Merdeka Barat, Central Jakarta. Just take a ride by taxi from your hotel to the Museum, easy to find.

There are quite a lot of thing to see, not only on kerises. But also, many kinds of precious collections of this 17th century Museum. In this location, there are two important places (1) the old museum, and (2) the new museum just beside the old one...

In the old museum, please visit the 2nd floor, to the "Khasanah Emas" (gold treasury), and you will see quite a lot of Indonesian (Nusantara) kerises of the past. From Sabang in the west part, to Merauke in the very east part of this archipelago.

In the new museum, please visit the 4th floor -- the "Khasanah Emas" too. You will see some precious and exotic collections of kerises and tombaks in a more convenient place than the old one...

There is another museum to see, Museum Pusaka (Keris) -- at Taman Mini Indonesia Indah in Eastern Jakarta. But not as good as the National Museum...

Bon voyage, mon ami...

GANJAWULUNG

cedric Le Dauphin · 19th March 2010, 06:23 PM

Thank you very much for these info.
I'll be in Jakarta from the 28th to 31rst included.
Of course if you drop by Paris you are all welcome. Send me an e-mail and we'll find some ways to share our interest.

Just for the markets indicated, are there beter days or hours to visit them?

Alam Shah · 19th March 2010, 06:32 PM

In Singapore, do visit the Asian Civilisation Museum @ Empress Place.
Not as many pieces compared to the collections at Jakarta, but there are quality pieces as well.
A good shop to visit would be, Malay Art Gallery @ Bussorah Street (near the Sultan's Mosque).

If you have time, I can arrange a meet up with local collectors..

ganjawulung · 19th March 2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cedric Le Dauphin

Of course if you drop by Paris you are all welcome. Send me an e-mail and we'll find some ways to share our interest.

Just for the markets indicated, are there beter days or hours to visit them?

Then fortunately, we may meet in Jakarta after 28th of March... Email me your contact number while in Jakarta. But in France? Oh la la, not "really" France, but only a couple kilometers from French border, in La-Chaux-de-Fonds in Switzerland...

Yes, once I stayed -- only three months, not in Paris but in Rheims in 1993. (I stayed in a French family who could not speak English almost even a word...).

Once I was anxious to see "this" keris in Musee de L'Homme near Trocadero, Paris but unfortunately I didn't find it. This keris is the museum's collection, I found this picture from the catalogue. It pictured one of my favorite dhapur, "jalak sangu tumpeng" with very very cute warangka of elegant Solonese... (pls see picture below)

GANJAWULUNG

ganjawulung · 19th March 2010, 11:49 PM

More close ups on the collection of Musee de l'Homme, Paris from museum's catalogue. Keris with dhapur "jalak sangu tumpeng". And also, balinese gold keris-handle ornamented with precious stones...

... and a book on Indonesia that I bought from Virgin Bookstore, in Musee de Louvre, Paris a couple years ago, "Indonesia, The Archipel of gods" with some interesting essays on Indonesian culture...

GANJAWULUNG

cedric Le Dauphin · 20th March 2010, 07:34 PM

Hi! Everyone!

Dear Ganjawulung

Thanks for the invitation; I'll email you my details in Jakarta.

Regarding the Trocadero Musée de l'homme, it does not exist anymore.

The Collection has been mixed with the tribal art museum's and placed in the Quai Branly Museum. This last is a great museum but mostly turned on the tribal side, when keris are considered here more classical asian artefact. I succeeded in selling a few keris handle to them three years ago, but nothing ever since. I have also tried to make a big exhibition on keris with them but it doesn't progress...

The Guimet Museum is more Asian oriented, but has only one keris.

You find more keris and nicer one in private collections rather than in museum. But I have not said my last word....

In any case Paris museums are great and worth visiting. Anybody who needs tips or whatever on them can let me know
Cedric

Hartadi · 21st March 2010, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cedric Le Dauphin

Hi! everyone
I'll be passing through Indonesia the next weeks.
Mainly Singapore Jakarta and Bali.
Any advise about must see? keris related of course!
best regards to all
Cedric

don't missed http://www.museumneka.com/keris.asp in Bali, it's about 45 minutes drive from the Airport

ganjawulung · 21st March 2010, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cedric Le Dauphin

Hi! Everyone!

Dear Ganjawulung

Thanks for the invitation; I'll email you my details in Jakarta.

Regarding the Trocadero Musée de l'homme, it does not exist anymore.

Yes Cedric,
It has been quite a long time ago I went to the museum (1993, and the last time I went to Paris was on 2008 but not visited the museum). Thank you for the latest info on museum in Paris...
You may email me your cellphone nr, so I can text you while in Switzerland. I am leaving to Zurich this afternoon...

GANJAWULUNG

cedric Le Dauphin · 21st March 2010, 11:12 AM

Dear Hartadi,

Thanks for the neka museum, it was already on my list. Any other address in Bali?
I don't know if I can drop by Lombok and I never went there. Can you please advise?

ganjawulung · 21st March 2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cedric Le Dauphin

Any other address in Bali?

(While transit in Changi Singapore) Made Ardika, young balinese warangka maker, and handle carver in Batuan, not far from Neka Museum in Ubud. Later I will give you his contact number... And if you have enough time -- you may go to Klungkung, search Banjar Pande (name of Area in Klungkung, about 2 hours from Kuta or Denpasar), Ktut Mudra -- one of only a few balinese keris maker left...

GANJAWULUNG

ganjawulung · 25th March 2010, 07:16 AM

Dear Cedric,
Just to inform you about the National Museum of Jakarta, it is closed every Monday. So, if you want to go there next week, you should better go on Sunday morning, or other than Mondays. The museum usually closed at 2 pm, daily...

I am still in Barcelona Spain. Hopefully be back to Jakarta on Saturday...

GANJAWULUNG

cedric Le Dauphin · 16th April 2010, 07:50 AM

hi! everyone
Back in Paris, I want to thank you all and even more the one I have met and with whom I have spent some time.
This forum is great, and to meet with you was even better.
So thanks again, for your time, advice and the joy which all our discussions brought.
Best regards to all
Cedric

19th March 2010, 10:46 AM	#1
cedric Le Dauphin Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 39	Jakarta Hi! everyone I'll be passing through Indonesia the next weeks. Mainly Singapore Jakarta and Bali. The trip in not long enough to visit other islands this time. Any advise about must see? keris related of course! best regards to all Cedric

19th March 2010, 11:13 AM	#2
Amuk Murugul Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben Posts: 460	Jakarta - Keris Hullo everybody, - Pasar Rawabening - Sanggar Sedayu, Rawamangun - Sanggar Sugiri, Pasar Minggu - Sanggar Djumadi, Pasar Seni Ancol - Museum Pusaka etc., Taman Mini Indonesia Indah Hope this helps. Best,

19th March 2010, 04:45 PM	#4
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	The National Museum of Jakarta Which date, Cedric? Unfortunately, this 21st-28th of March next week I would be out of Jakarta, to Basel, Barcelona and ... en France. But I would suggest you -- as I suggest to everyone who spends a couple of days in Jakarta -- to visit The National Museum of Jakarta (Museum Nasional) at Jalan (street) Merdeka Barat, Central Jakarta. Just take a ride by taxi from your hotel to the Museum, easy to find. There are quite a lot of thing to see, not only on kerises. But also, many kinds of precious collections of this 17th century Museum. In this location, there are two important places (1) the old museum, and (2) the new museum just beside the old one... In the old museum, please visit the 2nd floor, to the "Khasanah Emas" (gold treasury), and you will see quite a lot of Indonesian (Nusantara) kerises of the past. From Sabang in the west part, to Merauke in the very east part of this archipelago. In the new museum, please visit the 4th floor -- the "Khasanah Emas" too. You will see some precious and exotic collections of kerises and tombaks in a more convenient place than the old one... There is another museum to see, Museum Pusaka (Keris) -- at Taman Mini Indonesia Indah in Eastern Jakarta. But not as good as the National Museum... Bon voyage, mon ami... GANJAWULUNG Last edited by ganjawulung; 19th March 2010 at 05:08 PM.

19th March 2010, 06:32 PM	#6
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Singapore In Singapore, do visit the Asian Civilisation Museum @ Empress Place. Not as many pieces compared to the collections at Jakarta, but there are quality pieces as well. A good shop to visit would be, Malay Art Gallery @ Bussorah Street (near the Sultan's Mosque). If you have time, I can arrange a meet up with local collectors..

19th March 2010, 11:49 PM	#8
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	More Close Ups More close ups on the collection of Musee de l'Homme, Paris from museum's catalogue. Keris with dhapur "jalak sangu tumpeng". And also, balinese gold keris-handle ornamented with precious stones... ... and a book on Indonesia that I bought from Virgin Bookstore, in Musee de Louvre, Paris a couple years ago, "Indonesia, The Archipel of gods" with some interesting essays on Indonesian culture... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

19th March 2010, 03:08 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,130	Cedric, please forgive my intense jealousy.

19th March 2010, 06:23 PM	#5
cedric Le Dauphin Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 39	Thank you very much for these info. I'll be in Jakarta from the 28th to 31rst included. Of course if you drop by Paris you are all welcome. Send me an e-mail and we'll find some ways to share our interest. Just for the markets indicated, are there beter days or hours to visit them?

20th March 2010, 07:34 PM	#9
cedric Le Dauphin Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 39	Hi! Everyone! Dear Ganjawulung Thanks for the invitation; I'll email you my details in Jakarta. Regarding the Trocadero Musée de l'homme, it does not exist anymore. The Collection has been mixed with the tribal art museum's and placed in the Quai Branly Museum. This last is a great museum but mostly turned on the tribal side, when keris are considered here more classical asian artefact. I succeeded in selling a few keris handle to them three years ago, but nothing ever since. I have also tried to make a big exhibition on keris with them but it doesn't progress... The Guimet Museum is more Asian oriented, but has only one keris. You find more keris and nicer one in private collections rather than in museum. But I have not said my last word.... In any case Paris museums are great and worth visiting. Anybody who needs tips or whatever on them can let me know Cedric

21st March 2010, 11:12 AM	#12
cedric Le Dauphin Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 39	Dear Hartadi, Thanks for the neka museum, it was already on my list. Any other address in Bali? I don't know if I can drop by Lombok and I never went there. Can you please advise?

25th March 2010, 07:16 AM	#14
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	NATIONAL MUSEUM Dear Cedric, Just to inform you about the National Museum of Jakarta, it is closed every Monday. So, if you want to go there next week, you should better go on Sunday morning, or other than Mondays. The museum usually closed at 2 pm, daily... I am still in Barcelona Spain. Hopefully be back to Jakarta on Saturday... GANJAWULUNG

16th April 2010, 07:50 AM	#15
cedric Le Dauphin Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 39	hi! everyone Back in Paris, I want to thank you all and even more the one I have met and with whom I have spent some time. This forum is great, and to meet with you was even better. So thanks again, for your time, advice and the joy which all our discussions brought. Best regards to all Cedric