Saudi Arabian weapons!

Aurangzeb · 16th August 2005, 05:18 AM

Hello All!

I just got this very nice set of a Mecca jambiya and belt witha nice saif and balderic off of Ebay. Does anyone know what the materials used might be(gold or brass). Or what the function of these might be such as cerimonial, for they seem a notch above tourist pieces although I may be wrong I won't know for sure until I get them in the mail. Any coments are welcome and wanted.

Mark...

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Yannis · 16th August 2005, 08:52 AM

In my eyes there are recent mass production. If there is any quality you will find as soon as you get them. But the price is very good even for tourist pieces. An authentic antique set like this could cost at least 30 times more.

RSWORD · 17th August 2005, 12:34 AM

They will make nice display pieces and you really can't go wrong for the price you paid for them. As far as materials, I have seen a few quite similar to these examples. On the Saif, the handle will be plastic and the guard and mounts are a gold washed mix metal that is a bit on the light side. The blade is probably plated or chromed and not tempered. I think a lot of these were made to sell to various folks working oil in Saudia Arabia back in the 70's and 80's.

Aurangzeb · 17th August 2005, 01:20 AM

Hello all!

Thanks for the quick responses on my Saudi Arabian set. I think this set will go nice with my Saudi Arabian flage and coins from around the same period as the sword and dagger. I will post pick when I get the set and get it into a display. Is this meatal mix rust resistant and does the chrome and gold wash wear off quickly (because I know geusts will want to toch the display)?

Mark...

Aurangzeb · 19th August 2005, 01:23 AM

Hi All!

Today I got the set in the mail I like them verrty much they arte in good condition but UPS say fit to play football vith the set in it's box. It even looks like someone bent the saif over there knee!The blade and scabbard are bent almost in half thank heavens I was able to staighten it. The dagger survived tyhe best for it's small size.

Mark...

M.carter · 20th August 2005, 03:04 PM

Hello All,

Sorry to put you off Aurangzeb but what you have here wasnt even made in Saudi Arabia, these swords and daggers were and still are made in Syria for export to countries such as S.Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar, they are for tourists, but mostly for sword dances.

As RSWORD has said, the blades are usually not heat treated, though some are. Be careful with the hilt, as it probably is fixed with plaster, though I find a way to make some excellent beaters out of these swords.

Aurangzeb · 20th August 2005, 03:39 PM

Hi M.carter!

What you just told me chould not be better news!

So this was not a terrible loss thanks to the U.P.S. slaughter house.

Rick · 20th August 2005, 04:18 PM

Welcome back Mr. Carter , you've been too long away .

16th August 2005, 05:18 AM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Saudi Arabian weapons! Hello All! I just got this very nice set of a Mecca jambiya and belt witha nice saif and balderic off of Ebay. Does anyone know what the materials used might be(gold or brass). Or what the function of these might be such as cerimonial, for they seem a notch above tourist pieces although I may be wrong I won't know for sure until I get them in the mail. Any coments are welcome and wanted. Mark... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN%3AIT&rd=1

19th August 2005, 01:23 AM	#5
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Bad news!!!!!!!! Hi All! Today I got the set in the mail I like them verrty much they arte in good condition but UPS say fit to play football vith the set in it's box. It even looks like someone bent the saif over there knee!The blade and scabbard are bent almost in half thank heavens I was able to staighten it. The dagger survived tyhe best for it's small size. Mark...

16th August 2005, 08:52 AM	#2
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	In my eyes there are recent mass production. If there is any quality you will find as soon as you get them. But the price is very good even for tourist pieces. An authentic antique set like this could cost at least 30 times more.

17th August 2005, 12:34 AM	#3
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,083	They will make nice display pieces and you really can't go wrong for the price you paid for them. As far as materials, I have seen a few quite similar to these examples. On the Saif, the handle will be plastic and the guard and mounts are a gold washed mix metal that is a bit on the light side. The blade is probably plated or chromed and not tempered. I think a lot of these were made to sell to various folks working oil in Saudia Arabia back in the 70's and 80's.

17th August 2005, 01:20 AM	#4
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hello all! Thanks for the quick responses on my Saudi Arabian set. I think this set will go nice with my Saudi Arabian flage and coins from around the same period as the sword and dagger. I will post pick when I get the set and get it into a display. Is this meatal mix rust resistant and does the chrome and gold wash wear off quickly (because I know geusts will want to toch the display)? Mark...

20th August 2005, 03:04 PM	#6
M.carter Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 176	Hello All, Sorry to put you off Aurangzeb but what you have here wasnt even made in Saudi Arabia, these swords and daggers were and still are made in Syria for export to countries such as S.Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar, they are for tourists, but mostly for sword dances. As RSWORD has said, the blades are usually not heat treated, though some are. Be careful with the hilt, as it probably is fixed with plaster, though I find a way to make some excellent beaters out of these swords.

20th August 2005, 03:39 PM	#7
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi M.carter! What you just told me chould not be better news! So this was not a terrible loss thanks to the U.P.S. slaughter house.

20th August 2005, 04:18 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,290	Welcome back Mr. Carter , you've been too long away .