ivory handle burmese? sword for id and discussion please

chiefheadknocker · 9th September 2017, 06:28 PM

I have recently acquired this sword unfortunately it is missing the scabbard , I think its Burmese ,there is a mark on the blade maybe this will point to where it originates , I am a novice in this area and any info would be much appretiated
thanks

total length 84cm

Sajen · 9th September 2017, 10:20 PM

Hello Chiefheadknocker,

no, it's not a Burmese dha but a Lao daab, border Northern Thai. It has a Hua Bua tip. This Hua Bua tips are for pushing inside the arm of the enemy with which he hold his own sword so that he can't hold it anymore. The scabbard was a simple one like the one in the picture, both swords has been in possession of a good friend of mine. The mark on your sword was used by Laos, Northern Thai and Lanna daabs. Very nice sword by the way!

Regards,
Detlef

chiefheadknocker · 9th September 2017, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Chiefheadknocker,

no, it's not a Burmese dha but a Lao daab, border Northern Thai. It has a Hua Bua tip. This Hua Bua tips are for pushing inside the arm of the enemy with which he hold his own sword so that he can't hold it anymore. The scabbard was a simple one like the one in the picture, both swords has been in possession of a good friend of mine. The mark on your sword was used by Laos, Northern Thai and Lanna daabs. Very nice sword by the way!

Regards,
Detlef

hi detlef,
thanks for your reply and information , this forum is great to get expert advice from people like yourself .
many thanks,
chief

Sajen · 9th September 2017, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefheadknocker

hi detlef,
thanks for your reply and information , this forum is great to get expert advice from people like yourself .
many thanks,
chief

Hi Chief,

I've got many help in the past at this place and I am happy that I can help now others!

Best regards,
Detlef

kahnjar1 · 10th September 2017, 06:54 AM

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Go to "Sword Index" section. If you click on the images you will get a description of each.
Stu

Ian · 10th September 2017, 07:32 PM

Hi CHK:

I'm sorry I'm coming to this a little late.

I agree with Detlef that your sword is N. Thai/Lao in origin and from the Rattanakosin period, maybe early to mid-19th C. I have a similar, hua bua tipped sword from the early Rattanakosin period (as dated from the silverwork on the scabbard)--pictures below. The hua bua tip is based on the shape of the lotus bud, and there are many variations. As you can see, the tip on mine is a little different from yours, but the purpose was similar. There are martial arts techniques that employed this tip to inflict a painful jab to the sword hand or arm of an opponent, temporarily distracting him and allowing a slashing blow to a more vital structure. These swords were intended mainly for close hand fighting, including indoors, and were sometimes used by bodyguards specifically trained in the use of this particular sword.

Ian.

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9th September 2017, 06:28 PM	#1
chiefheadknocker Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 143	ivory handle burmese? sword for id and discussion please I have recently acquired this sword unfortunately it is missing the scabbard , I think its Burmese ,there is a mark on the blade maybe this will point to where it originates , I am a novice in this area and any info would be much appretiated thanks total length 84cm Attached Images Last edited by chiefheadknocker; 9th September 2017 at 07:19 PM.

9th September 2017, 10:20 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Hello Chiefheadknocker, no, it's not a Burmese dha but a Lao daab, border Northern Thai. It has a Hua Bua tip. This Hua Bua tips are for pushing inside the arm of the enemy with which he hold his own sword so that he can't hold it anymore. The scabbard was a simple one like the one in the picture, both swords has been in possession of a good friend of mine. The mark on your sword was used by Laos, Northern Thai and Lanna daabs. Very nice sword by the way! Regards, Detlef Attached Images

10th September 2017, 06:54 AM	#5
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	Look here...... This might also be of interest http://dharesearch.bowditch.us/ Go to "Sword Index" section. If you click on the images you will get a description of each. Stu

10th September 2017, 07:32 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Hi CHK: I'm sorry I'm coming to this a little late. I agree with Detlef that your sword is N. Thai/Lao in origin and from the Rattanakosin period, maybe early to mid-19th C. I have a similar, hua bua tipped sword from the early Rattanakosin period (as dated from the silverwork on the scabbard)--pictures below. The hua bua tip is based on the shape of the lotus bud, and there are many variations. As you can see, the tip on mine is a little different from yours, but the purpose was similar. There are martial arts techniques that employed this tip to inflict a painful jab to the sword hand or arm of an opponent, temporarily distracting him and allowing a slashing blow to a more vital structure. These swords were intended mainly for close hand fighting, including indoors, and were sometimes used by bodyguards specifically trained in the use of this particular sword. Ian. . Attached Images