18 CENTURY HUNGARIAN SWORD

VANDOO · 21st July 2005, 05:07 PM

HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF A INTERESTING SWORD SAID TO BE 18 CENTURY HUNGARIAN. IT IS 29 5/8 IN LONG OVERALL AND HAS A BRONZE HANDLE IN THE SHAPE OF A OTTOMAN SULTAN, POSSIBLY TO SIGNIFY THAT A HUNGARIAN HELD A OTTOMON SULTAN IN HIS HAND. THE SWORD IS NOT MINE UNFORTUNATELY WAY TOO RICH FOR ME, BUT IS WELL MADE AND INTERESTING ENJOY!

ariel · 21st July 2005, 07:36 PM

Unless my eyes deceive me, the same handle was offered on e-bay couple of years ago, only then it was attached to a VERY different blade....

not2sharp · 22nd July 2005, 04:44 AM

That is a strange looking blade; could it possibly have been a sawback that has been removed?

n2s

ALEX · 20th March 2017, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

Unless my eyes deceive me, the same handle was offered on e-bay couple of years ago, only then it was attached to a VERY different blade....

Have you noticed this very sword just sold on eBay, also as 17-18C Hungarian/Turkish. The handle is crude and unusual to say the least, the blade is old but... what this could be?

mariusgmioc · 20th March 2017, 05:05 PM

Hello,

The hilt appears to be rather crudely cast.

As with respect to the blade... well... it looks rather new to me.

And other than the "turk" of the hilt, it doesn't appear to have anything Turkish.

Jim McDougall · 20th March 2017, 05:36 PM

It is good to see VANDOO pop up on a post here, as I always looked forward to his entries, miss him very much already.
As always, an interesting item, and well observed as far as the crudely cast hilt, which seems almost fanciful, and the blade which does not seem anything to do with Hungarian swords.

The blade seems potentially very mid to latter 19th century to me, and possibly one of the support units like pioneers, sappers etc. which may have brought the suggestion of saw back removal (N2S). The hilt is cast much like band swords in character.

Whatever the case, this was not anything Hungarian, nor 17th/18th c. despite the always (reliable??!!) online descriptions in these auction entries.

and as Ariel notes, often hilts pop up year to year with different blades. Industrious and creative sellers.

21st July 2005, 05:07 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	18 CENTURY HUNGARIAN SWORD HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF A INTERESTING SWORD SAID TO BE 18 CENTURY HUNGARIAN. IT IS 29 5/8 IN LONG OVERALL AND HAS A BRONZE HANDLE IN THE SHAPE OF A OTTOMAN SULTAN, POSSIBLY TO SIGNIFY THAT A HUNGARIAN HELD A OTTOMON SULTAN IN HIS HAND. THE SWORD IS NOT MINE UNFORTUNATELY WAY TOO RICH FOR ME, BUT IS WELL MADE AND INTERESTING ENJOY! Attached Images

21st July 2005, 07:36 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Unless my eyes deceive me, the same handle was offered on e-bay couple of years ago, only then it was attached to a VERY different blade....

22nd July 2005, 04:44 AM	#3
not2sharp Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 210	That is a strange looking blade; could it possibly have been a sawback that has been removed? n2s

20th March 2017, 05:05 PM	#5
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	Hello, The hilt appears to be rather crudely cast. As with respect to the blade... well... it looks rather new to me. And other than the "turk" of the hilt, it doesn't appear to have anything Turkish.

20th March 2017, 05:36 PM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,947	It is good to see VANDOO pop up on a post here, as I always looked forward to his entries, miss him very much already. As always, an interesting item, and well observed as far as the crudely cast hilt, which seems almost fanciful, and the blade which does not seem anything to do with Hungarian swords. The blade seems potentially very mid to latter 19th century to me, and possibly one of the support units like pioneers, sappers etc. which may have brought the suggestion of saw back removal (N2S). The hilt is cast much like band swords in character. Whatever the case, this was not anything Hungarian, nor 17th/18th c. despite the always (reliable??!!) online descriptions in these auction entries. and as Ariel notes, often hilts pop up year to year with different blades. Industrious and creative sellers.