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Old 1st May 2022, 03:05 PM   #1
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Default Phillipines or Indonesia?

Was this made by an Indonesian who had seen a Tenegre or a Filipino who liked Indonesian blades and scabbards?

The face is very similar to a tenegre hilt that I have.

O/A length is 18"
Blade is 13"
Blade thickness is 3/8"
The scabbard bands are brass and tin ( I think beer can )
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Old 1st May 2022, 03:40 PM   #2
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Newer and not Filipino… maybe Indonesian… I’m definitely not an Indonesia expert.
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Old 1st May 2022, 03:57 PM   #3
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This is an Indonesian 'Golok' from Sundang (West-Java). dating from the first half of the 20th century.
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Old 1st May 2022, 04:32 PM   #4
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Agree with Peter, see here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=golok

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Old 2nd May 2022, 01:17 AM   #5
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This is an Indonesian 'Golok' from Sundang (West-Java). dating from the first half of the 20th century.
Yes, Sunda
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Old 2nd May 2022, 03:32 AM   #6
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West Java, the hilt (perah) is trying to mimic "Maung Buhun" hilt style .. Maung = tiger, buhun = ancient, old, sacred
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Was this made by an Indonesian who had seen a Tenegre or a Filipino who liked Indonesian blades and scabbards?

The face is very similar to a tenegre hilt that I have.

O/A length is 18"
Blade is 13"
Blade thickness is 3/8"
The scabbard bands are brass and tin ( I think beer can )
All comments welcome.
Thanks
Roy
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Old 3rd May 2022, 02:02 PM   #7
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Hello
I meant the comment to be a bit "tongue in cheek" but it looks as though that has backfired on me.
The main point was the " monster" style of hilt that I had not come across before in these Goloks.
The anthropomorphic hilts that I have ( and have seen)are mostly eagles and very simple parrot heads.
This one reminded me of the monster head on a tenegre.
Perhaps naturalist is correct.
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Old 3rd May 2022, 05:32 PM   #8
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zoomorphic, not anthropomorphic
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