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Old 16th October 2006, 02:50 PM   #1
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Default Moro ivory pommel for comment

Hi guys, wanna know if anyone of you have encountered an ivory pommel with this shape? How old you think this is? Can someone also translate what is written on the blade. This is owned by a holy man. Comments will be much appreciated.
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Old 17th October 2006, 11:31 PM   #2
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Can you post photos of the whole sword?
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Old 18th October 2006, 01:46 AM   #3
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In my tradition the designs on the blade are called "sigils." The one on the right looks very familiar. Will need to do some research.

I like the piece,
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Old 18th October 2006, 05:19 AM   #4
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Default Nice old ivory ...

Now that looks like an old and much handled piece of ivory. Lovely patina and carving that has been fondled.

The shape reminds me of one that our host, Lee, posted on the old Forum. I think we concluded it was an older style and more likely to be Malay or Brunei than Sulu or Mindanao.

I will look for that old thread.

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Edit: Here is the thread http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000589.html but Lee's pictures are no longer there. However, there is a picture of Datu Piang (page 2) with a similar hilted sword
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Old 18th October 2006, 05:22 AM   #5
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Sorry promised the owner not the post the whole sword. It is now in his "private" collection.
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Old 18th October 2006, 01:11 PM   #6
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Sorry promised the owner not the post the whole sword. It is now in his "private" collection.
"pisting yawa"
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Old 18th October 2006, 02:16 PM   #7
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LOL!

last time i heard someone said that i did something i wasn't suppose to. too funny..
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Old 18th October 2006, 04:10 PM   #8
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"pisting yawa"
Is it a joke or are you serious? If you are serious, "pisting yawa ka rin"
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Old 18th October 2006, 04:14 PM   #9
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Now that looks like an old and much handled piece of ivory. Lovely patina and carving that has been fondled.

The shape reminds me of one that our host, Lee, posted on the old Forum. I think we concluded it was an older style and more likely to be Malay or Brunei than Sulu or Mindanao.

I will look for that old thread.

Ian.

Edit: Here is the thread http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000589.html but Lee's pictures are no longer there. However, there is a picture of Datu Piang (page 2) with a similar hilted sword
Thank you very much for the link. Much appreciated. About the arabic word on the blade, anyone here know how to translate it?
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thanks Ian - I was looking for that link for my Datu Piang picture with a similar kris:
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Sorry promised the owner not the post the whole sword. It is now in his "private" collection.
What a shame - it would be good for research purposes.
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Old 18th October 2006, 11:27 PM   #12
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Is it a joke or are you serious? If you are serious, "pisting yawa ka rin"

Just a joke, Pare.
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Old 18th October 2006, 11:35 PM   #13
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kino/philkid:

English please guys ... no private jokes and let's keep the tone appropriate.

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