Thoughts on this grenadier sword?

[Hotspur]

I had thought I had posted this one up here , as someone here may have some recognition of it. This had been mislisted on Ebay as American Civil War and should have tried to acquire it. Instead, I at least saved the images.

My best guesses were Scandinavian or Netherland. I would lovew to nail this one down.

Cheers

GC

[Hotspur]

More of this neat sword

[Jim McDougall]

While I don't have the standard French references as to pattern etc. it would appear this is indeed French. The inscriptions and exotic motif on the blade are what is termed the 'Caissagnard' fashion, from a Nantes dealer who used these turbaned figures and the astral devices on his blades around third quarter 18th c.

[ulfberth]

Hello Hotspur, Hi Jim ,

that saber is from the batavian republic period 1795 - 1806, what is now the Netherlands.
The lower brass part of the scabbard is not the Original.
Kind regards

Ulfberth

[Jim McDougall]

Thank you so much Ulfberth!!!
It looks like Glen's remarkable instincts were well placed as always in his presumption of Netherlands. I based my 'French Connection' solely on my recollections of this distinct 'Caissagnard' motif which was peculiar to French blades of this period as noted.
Is it possible that these swords, which do seem to have French character, might have been supplied via French makers, much as Solingen supplied so many armies of various countries?

Excellent identification and very much appreciated ,

All best regards,
Jim

[ulfberth]

Hello Jim,

these swords were inspired by the French as the Netherlands followed the French revolution.
It only seems logical that they had the same suppliers which was even more the case during the French Empire period.
Here is its French coisin

Kind regards

Ulfberth

[Hotspur]

Originally Posted by ulfberth

Hello Hotspur, Hi Jim ,

that saber is from the batavian republic period 1795 - 1806, what is now the Netherlands.
The lower brass part of the scabbard is not the Original.
Kind regards

Ulfberth

Thanks very much. My hunch on it was actually just the grip shape and backstrap, coupled with a Prussian blade. The drag as a replacement would also fit as my not quite making it fit in mind, but a small thing. Copper wire something I had noticed as a trend for the north sea area.

There is still a lot of European history I try to wrap my mind around and arms somehow tie into so much.

Thanks again!

GC