ISLAMIC TRANSLATION REQUEST ON A RENTJONG

[asomotif]

Dear forumites.

I have a translation request. islamic script, but maybe tekst in jawi or malay ?
The rentjong was given by a local ruler to a dutch lady in 1928 and is claimed to be from approx 1860.

Your help is much appreciated.
I will post pictures of the entire piece in detail later.

Thanks and best regards,
Willem

[Maurice]

Hi Willem

can't help you with the translation......but........what a beautifull rencong.
Totally golden handle!
I've never handled such one before, and only have seen a few before on the internet, but from latter age, and far from as beautifull and old as yours!
You lucky you!!

Would love to see more images.

Rg,
Maurice

[A.alnakkas]

hmmm, I can red the top word, its "alamat" which means sign or symbol. The rest doesnt make sense to me.

[Dom]

Originally Posted by A.alnakkas

hmmm, I can red the top word, its "alamat" which means sign or symbol. The rest doesnt make sense to me.

Hi Lotfi
I am agree with you, it's what ever they want excepted Arabic language

may be "alamat" shoul be "adamet" but ... no meaning according to us

best regards

à +

Dom

[asomotif]

Dear Lofti / Dom,

Thank you for your reactions.
So it is not arabic Language.

But the script is arabic I assume ?
I will check if Mohd, Tunggulametung or Jentayu can assist.

Best regards,
Willem

[Battara]

Yes the script is Arabic but may be in Achenese = Jawi.

BTW - would you post pictures of the whole thing please!

[Dom]

Originally Posted by asomotif

But the script is arabic I assume ?

Hi Willem
you are correct, the script use the Arabic alphabet, as well as
- Persian ... but unreadable for Arabs
- Ottoman ... but unreadable for Arabs
and I may continuous the list

like as Frenchy, I'm using the same alphabet than you Dutch, but not for the same language

have a nice evening

à +

Dom

[mohd]

Hi Willem,

Congrats to you!
It sure is a beautiful piece

Originally Posted by asomotif

.. islamic script, but maybe tekst in jawi or malay ?
The rentjong was given by a local ruler to a dutch lady in 1928 and is claimed to be from approx 1860 ..

Originally Posted by Battara

.. Yes the script is Arabic but may be in Achenese = Jawi ..

Originally Posted by Dom

.. the script use the Arabic alphabet ..

It is Acehnese language written in Jawi script (i.e. originally is Arabic script).

The first line عـﻼ مـت read "alamt" which is a word that means address or sign or symbol.

عـ ± a
ﻼ‎ ± la
مـ ± m
ـت‎ ± t

The second line تــكــو يــون read "Tku (i.e. Teuku or Teku) Yun" which is a two words name of a person.

تـ ± t
ـكـ ± k
ـو ± u

and

يـ ± y
ـو ± u
ن ± n (i.e. It is placed at the above of the first two alphabets but the dot on the top of the alphabet itself is missing though; anyhow without doubt the very basic stroke of the alphabet is clearly shown as ن ± n in there)

The third line is a Jawi script س which represent ســنــة (i.e. Arabic "sanah") which means year and followed by the year 1348 (i.e. 1929) or 1318 (i.e. 1900).

١ = 1
٣ = 3
٤ = 4 or ١ = 1
٨ = 8

What's the meaning of the whole scripts?
IMVHO it might means that the Rencong was originally belong to or made for (i.e. "alamt") Teuku Yun and the Rencong or the rehandling of the Rencong was made in 1900 or 1929.
Teuku Yun is strictly Acehnese name.
Teuku is a male royal title in Aceh (i.e. equivalence to Prince) who might be a local ruler of a certain district during those olden days.

Hope this helps you a little, Willem

mohd

[Battara]

Thank you Mohd. Great job! Information like this helps with researching all our pieces.

[asomotif]

Originally Posted by mohd

Hope this helps you a little, Willem

mohd

Thank you very much.
It helps a lot !

[erikscollectables]

Congratulations, was already wondering who got it - it was already gone when I saw it. Superb piece and now with a name lucky catch!

I am quite sure it will be massive gold of 18k or more but it will have a resin or horn base on which this is put so not the whole handle is gold but still a nice amount of high grade gold!

All the best, Erik

[Jonno]

Very nice piece Willem.
Congratulations
Best,
John

[kai]

Congrats, Willem!

Since nobody mentioned it: I'm standing first in line if you ever dicide to let it go...

Regards,
Kai