Indonesian(?) dagger for discussion

ariel · 14th October 2005, 09:01 PM

The auction is over (Andrew, Mark, I have learned my lesson!!)
This one is from Indonesia (I think

)
Very pretty scabbard and a beautiful blade.
What is it?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

capt.smash · 14th October 2005, 09:15 PM

Hi Ariel it was me who won this lovely knife sorry if i outbid you

got to be indonesian surely..interested in comments.

ariel · 14th October 2005, 09:21 PM

Captain, no objections on my end! I did not bid on it ( saving money for something Middle-Eastern...) but ...
She sure is purty! Enjoy!
Would also be interested in comments.

Rick · 14th October 2005, 11:09 PM

Yes the scabbard looks quite Indonesian but the blade is in a Turkish Star pattern ; the bolster is sort of Sumatranesque (Acehnese) , but what the heck is a chunk of turquoise doing in the butt of the handle ?

Obviously it is a later addition (the turquoise) along with the filler it is set in .
I'm thinking that the butt may have had a silver cap at one point .

Intriguing piece Smashy .

RSWORD · 15th October 2005, 12:53 AM

I was having a look at this piece also. The blade is quite nice. I agree that the turquoise seems like a later addition and quite out of place for this item. The blade is lovely. I have seen this type of twist core in some Malaysian/Indonesian blades.

Battara · 15th October 2005, 06:02 AM

And in some Moro pieces.

Justin · 15th October 2005, 03:05 PM

Im inclined to agreewith Rick, that the turquoise looks very out of place and is probably a later addition

My guess as to origin is definately Sumatra/Aceh,the knife reminds me of a dagger sized sikim.

14th October 2005, 09:01 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Indonesian(?) dagger for discussion The auction is over (Andrew, Mark, I have learned my lesson!!) This one is from Indonesia (I think ) Very pretty scabbard and a beautiful blade. What is it? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

14th October 2005, 11:09 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Not Sure Yes the scabbard looks quite Indonesian but the blade is in a Turkish Star pattern ; the bolster is sort of Sumatranesque (Acehnese) , but what the heck is a chunk of turquoise doing in the butt of the handle ? Obviously it is a later addition (the turquoise) along with the filler it is set in . I'm thinking that the butt may have had a silver cap at one point . Intriguing piece Smashy .

14th October 2005, 09:15 PM	#2
capt.smash Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Devon ,England Posts: 80	Hi Ariel it was me who won this lovely knife sorry if i outbid you got to be indonesian surely..interested in comments.

14th October 2005, 09:21 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Captain, no objections on my end! I did not bid on it ( saving money for something Middle-Eastern...) but ... She sure is purty! Enjoy! Would also be interested in comments.

15th October 2005, 12:53 AM	#5
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,084	I was having a look at this piece also. The blade is quite nice. I agree that the turquoise seems like a later addition and quite out of place for this item. The blade is lovely. I have seen this type of twist core in some Malaysian/Indonesian blades.

15th October 2005, 06:02 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,225	And in some Moro pieces.

15th October 2005, 03:05 PM	#7
Justin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 175	Im inclined to agreewith Rick, that the turquoise looks very out of place and is probably a later addition My guess as to origin is definately Sumatra/Aceh,the knife reminds me of a dagger sized sikim.