7th May 2024, 05:19 AM | #1 |
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Tumbuk Lada or Sewar
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Need help. Is this a Tumbuk Lada? Sumatra or Peninsular Malaysia / Patani? Could it be a an old badik or sewar blade in a Tumbuk Lada Dress? Cheers. |
7th May 2024, 07:42 PM | #2 | |
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It's a Malay badik. See the attachment, it's my example. Too sad that the blade is so much eaten, the fittings are superb. Regards, Detlef |
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8th May 2024, 09:50 AM | #3 |
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I would call it a sewar.
An older, possibly centuries old blade in 20th century dress. |
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We had a similar discussion here 2013 before: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=badik Look special to #38, our senior member Dave Henkel who is very knowledgeable about Malay blades explained it very clearly. The dagger in question is a Malay badik and I guess that the fittings are antique as well. Here post #38 from the given thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...8&postcount=38 I've said the same as you to this time but I was prooven wrong! Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 8th May 2024 at 03:48 PM. Reason: spelling |
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8th May 2024, 10:55 AM | #6 |
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Look also to this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=sewar
It's always the name game, when a sewar like dagger coming from Malaysia it's called there as badik! The blades could be somewhat broader like the blade which started the thread. Regards, Detlef |
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Thank you Detlef for the link to the discussion.
Now, I'm not so sure this knife comes from Malaysia. |
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Just compare the mouth pieces from the scabbards, the one in question, my example and the ones in the given thread. It's the best evidence. Also blade shape, handle style, blade bolster and the used materials are signs but when there is a scabbard the mouthpiece is the give-away. Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 8th May 2024 at 09:16 PM. Reason: add pics |
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9th May 2024, 05:42 PM | #9 | |
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Will this one be a Malaysian Badik too? Cheers? |
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9th May 2024, 09:48 PM | #10 |
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Hi Oariff,
Yes, it's a Malay badik. Scabbard crosspiece, the very nice handle in aka bahar, typical Malay. Also the scabbard foot is clearly Malay. Let me know when you get tired of looking at it. Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 9th May 2024 at 09:54 PM. Reason: spelling |
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