Tabak?

[Sajen]

Yesterday I win with help of a other member this philippine bolo and I think/believe that it is a Panpangan tabak. I think that it is a quite old one, maybe around 1900 and was surprised that it don't went much higher. What do you think?

All comments are very welcome,

Detlef

[Lew]

Congrats

You are correct a tabak circa 1900-10.

Lew

[Sajen]

Thank you Lew, do you think that there have been wire around the handle?

Regards,

Detlef

[Lew]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Thank you Lew, do you think that there have been wire around the handle?

Regards,

Detlef

Most definately unfortunately it came off. Still a nice solid older example .

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Lew

Most definately unfortunately it came off. Still a nice solid older example .

Thank's again!

[Robert]

Hello Detlef and my congratulations to you on winning this most wonderful piece. If I had placed my bid like I thought I had it might have been the other way around. Imagine My surprise when the auction ended and I saw the price that this went for and found I had forgotten to place my bid like I thought I had. Well at least I know that it has gone to good home. I agree with Lew on this except I think it could date from 1890 to about 1910. Look in the grooves for small holes where wire might have been fixed to the hilt right next to the collars. On almost all of the ones I have the wire decoration seems to have been added after the knives/swords were finished. Again my congratulations on your win and remember if you ever get tired of looking at this I will be more than happy to give it a new home with lots of new friends.


Robert

[Battara]

Interesting piece. The wrap may have had a thin band of brass and a twisted wire piece of brass, both encircling the hilt.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Hello Detlef and my congratulations to you on winning this most wonderful piece. If I had placed my bid like I thought I had it might have been the other way around. Imagine My surprise when the auction ended and I saw the price that this went for and found I had forgotten to place my bid like I thought I had. Well at least I know that it has gone to good home. I agree with Lew on this except I think it could date from 1890 to about 1910. Look in the grooves for small holes where wire might have been fixed to the hilt right next to the collars. On almost all of the ones I have the wire decoration seems to have been added after the knives/swords were finished. Again my congratulations on your win and remember if you ever get tired of looking at this I will be more than happy to give it a new home with lots of new friends.


Robert

Thank you Robert,

will look if I can find holes when I have it in my hands. When I ever get tired of it you will be the first who will know about!

Regards,

Detlef

[Spunjer]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Yesterday I win with help of a other member this philippine bolo and I think/believe that it is a Panpangan tabak....
All comments are very welcome,

Detlef

hello detlef,
beautiful tabak! i don't really have much in my collection in the way of luzon pieces, save for a first republic dagger and a tabak. have you etched it? it might be laminated. i was pleasantly surprise when i found out the blade on mine was laminated, which i thought it was unusual to see on tagalog weaponries.

btw, just a slight correction: it's not Panpangan or Pampangan. if you ask someone from Pampanga what do they call themselves, it's Kapampangan. might sound minor, but the prefix KA makes a lot of difference... not quite versed in kapampangan dialect, but in deep tagalog, Ka is used as a prefix to someone's name as a sign of respect.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Spunjer

hello detlef,
beautiful tabak! i don't really have much in my collection in the way of luzon pieces, save for a first republic dagger and a tabak. have you etched it? it might be laminated. i was pleasantly surprise when i found out the blade on mine was laminated, which i thought it was unusual to see on tagalog weaponries.

btw, just a slight correction: it's not Panpangan or Pampangan. if you ask someone from Pampanga what do they call themselves, it's Kapampangan. might sound minor, but the prefix KA makes a lot of difference... not quite versed in kapampangan dialect, but in deep tagalog, Ka is used as a prefix to someone's name as a sign of respect.

Thank you Spunjer! Until now I don't received it but will try a etch when I have it in my hands. And thank you for the information about spelling Kapampangan.

Regards,

Detlef

[Spunjer]

yes, it will be interesting to see the lamination, if there's any. i was looking at some of the closeups and i think i see some squiggly lines, or perhaps i'm just seeing things, lol.
either way, it's an excellent catch!

[Dimasalang]

Blade vendors in the Philippines Ca.1913 selling what look to be similar knives.

[Indianajones]

Hi Detlef,
also congrats with this nice piece. Though -I know you always like to etch everything, but this piece has such a lovely old patine! If you etch it that will be gone forever!
Ofcourse its your piece but 'in the name of all nice 19th cent. blades' hope you'l think twice before dipping it into hot acid/vinegar.

Seems like your getting a quite nice Moluc/Philippine collection together! Interesting (unique?) combination!
Greets