Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 30th October 2021, 06:12 PM   #1
CharlesS
Member
 
CharlesS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Greenville, NC
Posts: 1,857
Default A Nice Bicol Minasbad With Unique Carving on the Scabbard

Here is a fine and rather rare example of a minasbad sword from Bicol in the N. Philippines. It is one of the best examples I have seen and dates to the late 19th-early 20th Century. The sword still maintains its full thin textile waistbelt. The most curious thing about it is the carving of a Star of David and half sunrise on the scabbard. I am not aware of the Star of David having much of an impact on Filipino history or culture, although, I do know that one can be found over the main gate at Fort Santiago in Manila.

Does anyone know the significance of this carving?

There have been some suggestions that it looks to be a Freemason symbol.


Sword Dimensions
:
Overall length: 27.75in./70.5cm.
Blade length: 19.25in./49cm. W
Widest point of the blade: 2in./5cm.
Attached Images
    
CharlesS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30th October 2021, 07:36 PM   #2
kronckew
Member
 
kronckew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Room 101, Glos. UK
Posts: 4,186
Default

The short lived 1st Philippine Republic 1899-19001 used a symbol of a rayed sun in a triangle with a star above at the point. Their sun had 8 rays and the stars were pentagonal, but one could allow for artistic license. What's under the red cloth strap?
kronckew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st October 2021, 11:58 AM   #3
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,794
Default

Very nice Charles!
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st November 2021, 07:01 PM   #4
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,794
Default

I think Wayne is correct, it could very well be a Katipunan symbol, compare!
Attached Images
     
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st November 2021, 07:16 PM   #5
David
Keris forum moderator
 
David's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,127
Default

Well, the sun in the triangle used by the 1st Philippine Republic was always a full sun in the triangle, wasn't it? Not a partial sun on the horizon. And it os generally surrounded by 5-pointed stars, not a six-pointed star. So i am not convinced that is the intended significance here.
David is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st November 2021, 08:51 PM   #6
xasterix
Member
 
xasterix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 663
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by David View Post
Well, the sun in the triangle used by the 1st Philippine Republic was always a full sun in the triangle, wasn't it? Not a partial sun on the horizon. And it os generally surrounded by 5-pointed stars, not a six-pointed star. So i am not convinced that is the intended significance here.
Agreed. I don't believe it's a Katipunan symbol either. But it's a significant symbol for PH culture just the same. It could be the standard for one of the cults that proliferated late 1800s / early 1900s.
xasterix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd November 2021, 03:05 AM   #7
Battara
EAAF Staff
 
Battara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,226
Default

I agree Xasterix. This might be one of the many Katipunan cults or independence groups at that time in the Philippines.
Battara is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.