ID for this African Dagger

thinreadline · 9th April 2019, 09:19 AM

Wonder is anyone can ID this dagger .. at first I thought Sudan , but its not really typical .

Kubur · 9th April 2019, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thinreadline

Wonder is anyone can ID this dagger .. at first I thought Sudan , but its not really typical .

Of course it's Sudan
Actually you are very lucky because you got a rare bird.
The hilt follow the classic style of late Antique columns. It's very rare.
You can find some parallel with headrests from Sudan and Ancient Egypt
lucky man you are

thinreadline · 9th April 2019, 06:49 PM

thank you Kubur much appreciated.

Martin Lubojacky · 9th April 2019, 07:14 PM

The dagger is interesting and nice. Please, could you post a photo of the terminal of the steel stud/thorn at the end of the handle ? Is there any decorative terminal (e.g. coin or small metal cup or cube)? Or is there ordinary "clinch" termination ?

thinreadline · 10th April 2019, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Lubojacky

The dagger is interesting and nice. Please, could you post a photo of the terminal of the steel stud/thorn at the end of the handle ? Is there any decorative terminal (e.g. coin or small metal cup or cube)? Or is there ordinary "clinch" termination ?

here we are , there is no peened tang or decorative terminal

Martin Lubojacky · 10th April 2019, 08:50 AM

Thank you. Missing terminal or peened tang is not usual in the case of this kind of straight Sudanese blades. It is more usual in the case of X hilts and curved styles blades. -It may be the second handle ? - Maybe different tribes/producers mixed together ? Isn´t there influence of Ottoman design (fluting on the handle ?
Did you receive it from older collection out of Africa or is it comming directly from Sudan now ?

thinreadline · 10th April 2019, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin Lubojacky

Thank you. Missing terminal or peened tang is not usual in the case of this kind of straight Sudanese blades. It is more usual in the case of X hilts and curved styles blades. -It may be the second handle ? - Maybe different tribes/producers mixed together ? Isn´t there influence of Ottoman design (fluting on the handle ?
Did you receive it from older collection out of Africa or is it comming directly from Sudan now ?

Thanks Martin ... this is what threw me too . It was a one off find , but definitely not direct from the Sudan .

9th April 2019, 09:19 AM	#1
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	ID for this African Dagger Wonder is anyone can ID this dagger .. at first I thought Sudan , but its not really typical . Attached Images

9th April 2019, 06:49 PM	#3
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	thank you Kubur much appreciated.

9th April 2019, 07:14 PM	#4
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 841	The dagger is interesting and nice. Please, could you post a photo of the terminal of the steel stud/thorn at the end of the handle ? Is there any decorative terminal (e.g. coin or small metal cup or cube)? Or is there ordinary "clinch" termination ?

10th April 2019, 08:50 AM	#6
Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 841	Thank you. Missing terminal or peened tang is not usual in the case of this kind of straight Sudanese blades. It is more usual in the case of X hilts and curved styles blades. -It may be the second handle ? - Maybe different tribes/producers mixed together ? Isn´t there influence of Ottoman design (fluting on the handle ? Did you receive it from older collection out of Africa or is it comming directly from Sudan now ?