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Old 18th September 2024, 07:39 PM   #1
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I propose to discuss the remarkable work of Joseph P. Smaldone "Warfare in the Sokoto Caliphate".

In the public domain: https://vk.com/doc358527_346946191?h...rsnDNweNlK5tHg

In chapter 3 the author gives a description of the weapons:

The heavy cavalry - a variety of swords (s. takobi; kansakali), war clubs (s. kulki; gulme; gwarmi; gwama), and battle-axes (s. gantama; gatari; gafiya; masari) were also used by the heavy cavalry when fighting at close quarters.

The light cavalry - the lance and sword were the principal weapons for close combat. Swords (s. takobi) were slung over the shoulder by the hamila, or sling, and daggers carried in a sheath affixed to the left forearm.

Infantry:

The archers (yam baka or masu baka) - some carried small shields (s. kunkeli) and swords (s. takobi).

Warriors armed with swords and shields were also organized as light and heavy infantry forces. The size, shape, and quality of both shields and swords varied widely. The most common type of sword, used by cavalry and infantry alike, was the broad-bladed two-edged straight fate-fate; other swords were modifications of the straight pattern or of the curved saber type.58

58Other straight swords included the dunhu, a plain unmarked weapon; the tamogas or tamogashi, a sword with three lines cut along the blade; the tama, a cheap sword; and the zabo. Muffett also lists the lafaranji, a single-edged weapon: "Nigeria - Sokoto Caliphate," p. 297, n. 20. Scimitars, or slightly curved one-edged swords, were less common and used principally by the cavalry. Swords of this type were first used in the Islamic world in the early fourteenth century, and reached North Africa by the early sixteenth century: Bivar, Nigerian Panoply, pp. 15-16, 27. Among the sabers used by the Hausa were the bisalami or almulku; the hindi was probably of Indian origin, and the hankatilo was Kanuri (Bornu). See Bivar, pp. 13-27, for a detailed discussion of some examples of these straight and curved swords, and his photographs, figures 1-11, pp. 45-55.

Also of interest is A Glossary of Hausa Military Terminology:

almulku - single-edged saber (= bisalami)
bisalami - curved one-edged sword (= almulku)
dungi - giraffe-hide shield
hankatilo - scimitar of Kanuri origin (= almulku = bisalami) sword sling (= hamila)
kansakali, kansakula - any sword (= takobi)
lafaranji - single-edged sword
takobi, takuba - any sword (= kansakali)
tama - type of cheap sword
tamogas or tamogashi - sword with three lines running parallel along the blade
zabo - type of sword.

Among all the names of the swords published in this work, only Takuba is widely known. What is characteristic is that the names of Kaskara, Mandinka, etc. are missing.
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I propose to discuss the remarkable work of Joseph P. Smaldone "Warfare in the Sokoto Caliphate".

In the public domain: https://vk.com/doc358527_346946191?h...rsnDNweNlK5tHg

In chapter 3 the author gives a description of the weapons:

The heavy cavalry - a variety of swords (s. takobi; kansakali), war clubs (s. kulki; gulme; gwarmi; gwama), and battle-axes (s. gantama; gatari; gafiya; masari) were also used by the heavy cavalry when fighting at close quarters.

The light cavalry - the lance and sword were the principal weapons for close combat. Swords (s. takobi) were slung over the shoulder by the hamila, or sling, and daggers carried in a sheath affixed to the left forearm.

Infantry:

The archers (yam baka or masu baka) - some carried small shields (s. kunkeli) and swords (s. takobi).

Warriors armed with swords and shields were also organized as light and heavy infantry forces. The size, shape, and quality of both shields and swords varied widely. The most common type of sword, used by cavalry and infantry alike, was the broad-bladed two-edged straight fate-fate; other swords were modifications of the straight pattern or of the curved saber type.58

58Other straight swords included the dunhu, a plain unmarked weapon; the tamogas or tamogashi, a sword with three lines cut along the blade; the tama, a cheap sword; and the zabo. Muffett also lists the lafaranji, a single-edged weapon: "Nigeria - Sokoto Caliphate," p. 297, n. 20. Scimitars, or slightly curved one-edged swords, were less common and used principally by the cavalry. Swords of this type were first used in the Islamic world in the early fourteenth century, and reached North Africa by the early sixteenth century: Bivar, Nigerian Panoply, pp. 15-16, 27. Among the sabers used by the Hausa were the bisalami or almulku; the hindi was probably of Indian origin, and the hankatilo was Kanuri (Bornu). See Bivar, pp. 13-27, for a detailed discussion of some examples of these straight and curved swords, and his photographs, figures 1-11, pp. 45-55.

Also of interest is A Glossary of Hausa Military Terminology:

almulku - single-edged saber (= bisalami)
bisalami - curved one-edged sword (= almulku)
dungi - giraffe-hide shield
hankatilo - scimitar of Kanuri origin (= almulku = bisalami) sword sling (= hamila)
kansakali, kansakula - any sword (= takobi)
lafaranji - single-edged sword
takobi, takuba - any sword (= kansakali)
tama - type of cheap sword
tamogas or tamogashi - sword with three lines running parallel along the blade
zabo - type of sword.

Among all the names of the swords published in this work, only Takuba is widely known. What is characteristic is that the names of Kaskara, Mandinka, etc. are missing.
Kaskara is a designation invented in the past by Western researchers/collectors. Saif is the name for the sword we know as kaskara. The forum has a lot of info on it.
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Kaskara is a designation invented in the past by Western researchers/collectors. Saif is the name for the sword we know as kaskara. The forum has a lot of info on it.
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Thank you, Marc.
I raised this topic because the current names of African swords and daggers are mostly invented by researchers/collectors or taken, for example, from the name of the people or tribe where this or that item was discovered/made. But in reality they had other names.

P.S. There is a mistake in the first post:
dungi - plain sword, without markings

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Thank you, Marc.
I raised this topic because the current names of African swords and daggers are mostly invented by researchers/collectors or taken, for example, from the name of the people or tribe where this or that item was discovered/made. But in reality they had other names.

P.S. There is a mistake in the first post:
dungi - plain sword, without markings

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It is a frequent phenomenon. Many of the names that stick really are just "sword" in the native language. Sometimes they can be useful, and other times they absolutely flatten the nuances that there are, especially if what is taken as the name is actually that of the people (or part of) using them.

"Mandinka" sabres are absolutely one example. These were used by the Mandinka, the Wolof, the Fulani (many branches of them: Toucouleurs, in Futa Djallon, in coastal Senegambia, etc), but it is rather common to see them attributed only to Mandinka when it is actually unknown. I actually believe that they originated within the Mandinka, just that it happened way back in the XV-XVIth century and it gave way to a rather large weapon family
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It is a frequent phenomenon. Many of the names that stick really are just "sword" in the native language. Sometimes they can be useful, and other times they absolutely flatten the nuances that there are, especially if what is taken as the name is actually that of the people (or part of) using them.

"Mandinka" sabres are absolutely one example. These were used by the Mandinka, the Wolof, the Fulani (many branches of them: Toucouleurs, in Futa Djallon, in coastal Senegambia, etc), but it is rather common to see them attributed only to Mandinka when it is actually unknown. I actually believe that they originated within the Mandinka, just that it happened way back in the XV-XVIth century and it gave way to a rather large weapon family
In House, "Mandinka" was apparently called bisalami, almulku.

The author provides interesting data in the note to chapter 3:

19 Leather- and metal-crafts were important native industries. Although many sword blades (s. ruwan takobi) were made locally by the cire-perdue, or "lost wax," method, imported tempered blades were superior and preferred to the more brittle domestic variety. Barth estimated that Kano imported annually about 50,000 sword blades, mostly from Solingen. These were mounted and sheathed by native craftsmen and sold throughout the Sudan: Travels and Discoveries,
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You might find this dagger interesting. Scroll down to figure 8 in the link you provided. Although the scabbard is different you see the same weapon. This is obviously 20th century and pristine. It could be "earlyish" having been well kept all its life outside of Africa , who knows, but who cares as it is as I said in pristine condition.
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You might find this dagger interesting. Scroll down to figure 8 in the link you provided. Although the scabbard is different you see the same weapon. This is obviously 20th century and pristine. It could be "earlyish" having been well kept all its life outside of Africa , who knows, but who cares as it is as I said in pristine condition.
Those weapon figures in that book are mostly wrong. In Figure 8, most of those dagger are in a style usually associated with the Toubou, not the Hausa, and the dagger like yours is associated to the areas west of the Niger River bend, particularly to the Mandinka (at least the style of the leatherwork).

However, this type of dagger with the red leather is associated in particular with the Wolof in Senegal, at least according to the identifications and provenance of various pieces in the Quai de Branly Museum.

Examples here:

https://www.quaibranly.fr/en/explore...-son-fourreau´

https://www.quaibranly.fr/en/explore...t-son-fourreau

https://www.quaibranly.fr/en/explore...17333-poignard

https://www.quaibranly.fr/en/explore...rd-et-fourreau
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You might find this dagger interesting. Scroll down to figure 8 in the link you provided. Although the scabbard is different you see the same weapon. This is obviously 20th century and pristine. It could be "earlyish" having been well kept all its life outside of Africa , who knows, but who cares as it is as I said in pristine condition.
Yes, it looks like the top one. And the other 4 daggers, we are used to calling - dagger Tubu.
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Who really knows what is right or wrong in such a vast and varied region. All our information is from multi opinions that cannot be verified.
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[QUOTE=Changdao;293351]Those weapon figures in that book are mostly wrong. In Figure 8, most of those dagger are in a style usually associated with the Toubou, not the Hausa, and the dagger like yours is associated to the areas west of the Niger River bend, particularly to the Mandinka (at least the style of the leatherwork).

As I understand it, the author in the photo showed general examples of swords and daggers that House used, without specific names.
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This might help show how weapons an styles cross borders. Also ethinc groups scattered in the modern states of West Africa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fula_jihads
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futa_Tooro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fula_l...ss%20some%2018

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Who really knows what is right or wrong in such a vast and varied region. All our information is from multi opinions that cannot be verified.
But much of it can certainly be verified, to a certain degree. There are a lot of precolonial and colonial drawings and photographies in which weapons are shown. Not all are reliable, and some should be taken with extreme caution, but when put together they paint a decent picture of the situation.

Of course, there are so many gaps in our knowledge due to a lack of study and poor sources (in the lack of archaeological evidence) that so much of the granularity is lost.
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But much of it can certainly be verified, to a certain degree. There are a lot of precolonial and colonial drawings and photographies in which weapons are shown. Not all are reliable, and some should be taken with extreme caution, but when put together they paint a decent picture of the situation.

Of course, there are so many gaps in our knowledge due to a lack of study and poor sources (in the lack of archaeological evidence) that so much of the granularity is lost.
I agree 100%.

But it seems to me that the names of African swords, daggers that we use and were mostly invented by researchers/collectors will remain the same. These names have become too widespread among collectors all over the world. On the other hand, it is convenient, by the name of the people or tribe you can determine where this or that item was discovered/made.
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This is an interesting topic, actually one that has perplexed me through the many years I have been obsessed with the study of swords. The field of ethnographic weapons is probably one of the most complex with regard to terms used for the various weapon forms, primarily because of the many languages and dialects describing them.

This is the bane of researchers as they comb through old references, local accounts etc. in trying to discover the development and history of the weapon form. I was once told by a well known authority on Indonesian weapons that in many cases terms for the same or similar form might vary almost by villages and of course tribal groups.

As has been noted, often the term follows root words that are action verbs such as cut, wound etc. for edged items and become collectively used and of course for a number of types which range from daggers or knives to larger forms up to swords.

In the case of the mysterious etymology of the 'kaskara' for example, after years of research, nobody had a clue where this word came from. I even went to authorities in British museums, authors and one noted reference even from the university at Khartoum, still no clue.

The term had become embedded in collectors vernacular thoroughly and thus assumed to be the proper term locally without any question. However, this was NOT the case. Talking with people from Sudan and Ethiopia, often with different tribal background, NONE had any idea of the term 'kaskara', and looked puzzled when I noted it.
They knew these broadswords only as 'sa'if', which is of course the Arabic collective term for 'sword'. In one case, one man noted they called them 'cross', of course referring to the configuration of cross guard to blade.

It was not until Iain Norman, who has done virtually THE landmark research on the takouba, took the time to delve into Saharan tribal dialects and found that the word was from one tribal language along trade routes. Obviously from trade going into Sudan.
Burton (1884) made use of the term kaskara but somehow never footnoted the word nor etymology! For Burton, the linguist, this is rare!

Whatever the case, the word never caught on in Sudan, at least clearly in any degree, but writers on arms, following Burton, used the term and the rest, as they say, is history.

This struggle to assign names to specific weapons has been ongoing of course, and here, over the past 25 years, there has been much consternation over correct or proper terms for specific weapons (we call it 'the name game', banana, fana, fo fana!! for those who remember the song).

We could spin these analogies all week, but the situation is pretty much as recognized by the excellent observations entered here already. As someone who has been involved in this study often, I just wanted to add my two bits.
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It is a frequent phenomenon. Many of the names that stick really are just "sword" in the native language. Sometimes they can be useful, and other times they absolutely flatten the nuances that there are, especially if what is taken as the name is actually that of the people (or part of) using them.

"Mandinka" sabres are absolutely one example. These were used by the Mandinka, the Wolof, the Fulani (many branches of them: Toucouleurs, in Futa Djallon, in coastal Senegambia, etc), but it is rather common to see them attributed only to Mandinka when it is actually unknown. I actually believe that they originated within the Mandinka, just that it happened way back in the XV-XVIth century and it gave way to a rather large weapon family
To add to my previous soliloquy;
The 'Mandinka' sabers are as noted typically regarded as from this tribe and from Mali, but obviously there are not distinct geographic boundaries to their regional presence. As far as I have known, there has never been a term for these sabers distinctly assigned, nor a distinct regional categorization...simply that it is a Mandinka saber.

The Mandinka tribes as I have understood were keenly in control of Trans Saharan trade routes which of course went through the important hub of Timbuktu in Mali. This alone would account for the diffusion of these type sabers, and the distinct leather work which seems to come from the west.
It is notable that the flared scabbard tip which is a distinctly Sudanese feature from the kaskara is present on these Mandinka sabers.

Also notable is that these typically have European saber blades, which is atypical for the preference of straight broadsword blades from Sahara to Sudan with the takouba and kaskara. Here I would note that some Tuareg swords with takouba type hilts have such saber blades and are known as ALJUINAR in Taureg parlance.

As far as the MANDINKA saber, I was once discussing these with a Fulani man from Guinea and showed him photos of one of these.
He immediately recognized it and called it KOTA........and pointed out the scabbard as called HOLGA (= house, apparently).

The study of the diffusion of these sabers is far more complex, but of course reflects the importance of the trade routes and how they carried not only goods but many cultural influences far and wide.
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The study of the diffusion of these sabers is far more complex, but of course reflects the importance of the trade routes and how they carried not only goods but many cultural influences far and wide.
The same example is in the neighboring topic Helleri "Cane knife".

Collectors call this type of blades from South Africa - Shona. However, in the territory of modern Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Zambia live different ethnic groups and it is very possible that they have different names for these swords.
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The same example is in the neighboring topic Helleri "Cane knife".

Collectors call this type of blades from South Africa - Shona. However, in the territory of modern Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Zambia live different ethnic groups and it is very possible that they have different names for these swords.
Which example? Do you have an image of a 'cane knife"?
Most collectors terms and jargon derive often from translating errors coming from narratives and accounts collected by various people observing and studying various ethnographic groups. Many such accounts were quite early and once the various terms entered the general literature of arms writers, they became firmly ingrained descriptively with writers who followed.

Thus these terms became 'collectors terms' in the vernacular in discussions of such weapons, and whether correct or not, became semantically expedient in use.

A classic example is from India, where the transverse grip dagger now known as KATAR instantly brings to mind the image of these unique weapons. However the weapon itself is actually termed in the early literature in in India as JAMDHAR, which means literally 'tooth of death' or of that character.
When Lord Egerton was researching for his venerable work on the arms of India (1885) he inadvertently transposed the term 'katar' from a regular straight blade knife in Northern India which was known by that term...to the transverse bladed dagger (jamdhar) and now forever remains known by the improper term.

As I say, these analogies could comprise a book in itself, but the point is that the terms used for many, if not most, ethnographic weapons, are often not entirely correct. For the sake of semantic expedience we typically use the commonly held terms long emplaced in the literature, however it is good to know the correct terms with their etymology. This is important to the serious study of ethnographic arms, and the study of the peoples who used them.

Could you please show the knife you refer to as SHONA?
As you well observe, it is quite likely that (BTW what is Helleri?) these knives are called by variant terms through the many tribal people in these regions, as we have discussed.

Actually these kinds of semantically oriented issue in the study of these weapons is very much what brings such intrigue and fascination to their serious study.

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Could you please show the knife you refer to as SHONA?
As you well observe, it is quite likely that (BTW what is Helleri?) these knives are called by variant terms through the many tribal people in these regions, as we have discussed.

You probably misunderstood me.

Helleri posted a topic "Cane knife": http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=30200

For example, I indicated that this type of knife/blade is called Shona. To do this, just type in the site search - Shona.

Sorry, English is not my native language, so there may be a misunderstanding.

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I did indeed misunderstand Pertinax, my apologies, and you are doing quite well with English.
I knew the ethic group Shona, but misunderstood that you meant the knife was probably Shona, but not called that.

Apparently these knives (and it seems many variant combinations) are called BAKATWA. This of course seems a collective term for these knife variants in these tribal groups , but I dont see it as connected to the Mandinka saber.

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