Translation Needed

Lew · 28th July 2007, 04:41 PM

Hi All

Can anyone one out there translate this koftgari?

Lew

Lew · 4th August 2007, 10:55 PM

Well I showed this to a few friends that read Arabic they are having trouble reading it but they think it is a saying from the Koran.

Lew

ham · 4th August 2007, 11:40 PM

Though worn, it appears to read
THERE IS NO HERO LIKE 'ALI AND SWORD LIKE DHUL'FAKAR

Ham

Lew · 5th August 2007, 01:12 PM

Ham

Thanks! Here is a bit more information on the saying and where it comes from.
It's interesting that this tulwar belonged to a Shi'a warrior is it possible to speculate the age or area of India where this sword came from?

http://www.answers.com/topic/zulfiqar

Lew

ham · 5th August 2007, 04:33 PM

It has been mentioned on this forum more than once that the phrase There is no hero like 'Ali, and no sword lik Dhul-Faqar
was and is used throughout the Dar al-Islam-- it is by no means limited to Shi'tes. In fact, the Mughals were Sunnis.

Hard to tell much at all about the sword based on that one stingy image.
Pray post a few more and then let the forumites at it.

Ham

Lew · 5th August 2007, 05:12 PM

Here are a few more pics. The blade is about 22 inches long and is pattern welded but the hilt is full size and my big hand fits rather comfortably in it.

Lew

katana · 5th August 2007, 10:56 PM

I like this Tulwar Lew. By saying that the hilt is 'full size' you seem to suggest that the blade is ...deficient.
Its shortness doesn't retract from its functionality though, try fighting with a full sized Tulwar in a narrow passage or restricted space

So SIZE does matter......but LARGE is not always good

Lew · 5th August 2007, 11:07 PM

Katana

What I mean is the hilt is full size made for an adult. I first thought it may have been a boys sword but after handling it I know it is a man's sword with a stout blade it is beautifully balanced and very quick in the hand. Maybe this was a back up sword or possibly some type of boarding sword for a naval warrior. I am also thinking it could be a type of court sword it has less of an opposing presence than a full size tulwar?

Lew

28th July 2007, 04:41 PM	#1
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Translation Needed Hi All Can anyone one out there translate this koftgari? Lew Attached Images

5th August 2007, 01:12 PM	#4
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Ham Thanks! Here is a bit more information on the saying and where it comes from. It's interesting that this tulwar belonged to a Shi'a warrior is it possible to speculate the age or area of India where this sword came from? http://www.answers.com/topic/zulfiqar Lew Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 5th August 2007 at 04:17 PM.

5th August 2007, 05:12 PM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Here are a few more pics. The blade is about 22 inches long and is pattern welded but the hilt is full size and my big hand fits rather comfortably in it. Lew Attached Images

5th August 2007, 11:07 PM	#8
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Katana What I mean is the hilt is full size made for an adult. I first thought it may have been a boys sword but after handling it I know it is a man's sword with a stout blade it is beautifully balanced and very quick in the hand. Maybe this was a back up sword or possibly some type of boarding sword for a naval warrior. I am also thinking it could be a type of court sword it has less of an opposing presence than a full size tulwar? Lew Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 6th August 2007 at 05:00 PM.

4th August 2007, 10:55 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Well I showed this to a few friends that read Arabic they are having trouble reading it but they think it is a saying from the Koran. Lew

4th August 2007, 11:40 PM	#3
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	Though worn, it appears to read THERE IS NO HERO LIKE 'ALI AND SWORD LIKE DHUL'FAKAR Ham

5th August 2007, 04:33 PM	#5
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	It has been mentioned on this forum more than once that the phrase There is no hero like 'Ali, and no sword lik Dhul-Faqar was and is used throughout the Dar al-Islam-- it is by no means limited to Shi'tes. In fact, the Mughals were Sunnis. Hard to tell much at all about the sword based on that one stingy image. Pray post a few more and then let the forumites at it. Ham

5th August 2007, 10:56 PM	#7
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	I like this Tulwar Lew. By saying that the hilt is 'full size' you seem to suggest that the blade is ...deficient. Its shortness doesn't retract from its functionality though, try fighting with a full sized Tulwar in a narrow passage or restricted space So SIZE does matter......but LARGE is not always good