Maguindanao 25 Luk Kris

Gustav · 20th March 2018, 02:57 PM

Dear All,

nothing very refined, nevertheless a nice blade (55,5 cm) of its kind, particularly the subtle tapering to the tip.
About 40% of outer binding on handle is gone. The quite fine inner binding isn't a repair, it goes under the outer and can be seen at some places.
An interesting feature is the inserted Jalen/Tjalen (that's how it's called in Keris terminology, sorry).
The pommel is not small.

Comments are welcome!

Ferguson · 20th March 2018, 06:08 PM

Sweet!

Sajen · 20th March 2018, 09:21 PM

Very, very nice!

Are you going to polish and etch the blade?

Regards,
Detlef

Robert · 20th March 2018, 09:58 PM

WOW

That is one very nice kris you have acquired. Not sure what you might find with a polish and etch, but it would be nice to find out. Congratulation on such a great find.

Best,
Robert

Battara · 20th March 2018, 11:28 PM

Nice - lots of luks

Gustav · 21st March 2018, 02:43 AM

Thank you, gentlemen!

Except for some spots of more or less active rust I will leave it as it is. It will look better with the battered handle as it is. No expectations of some special welding miracles, these pieces usually have the most simple construction, like Thilos kris:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=lukky

or a kris Stefan sold a while ago:

http://www.ashokaarts.com/shop/old-m...o-philippines-

Actually very few of these many Luk pieces are upper class, the most notable exception being:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...guindanao+kris

I would be interested in your opinions, why such pieces with an exaggerated number of Luk did appear at all.

kino · 21st March 2018, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

I would be interested in your opinions, why such pieces with an exaggerated number of Luk did appear at all.

Could it be to showcase the Panday’s skill?

I can only recall seeing two kris’ with an inserted tjalen, this one makes three.

Congrats on a good catch.

CCUAL · 21st March 2018, 03:34 AM

I think this is 29? if i count the luks correctly.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=moro+kris

F. de Luzon · 23rd March 2018, 03:57 PM

Congratulations, what a great find!

Fernando

Battara · 24th March 2018, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

I would be interested in your opinions, why such pieces with an exaggerated number of Luk did appear at all.

Well, one thing is that it can effective like a saw blade in the hands of a well trained warrior. There is a special way to use this in combat.

Also, the more luks, the more active the "snake" is and the more lethal it is.

DaveS · 24th March 2018, 05:40 AM

Chris: Nope. 25 waves all the way........Dave.

Gustav · 24th March 2018, 12:22 PM

Thank you all again!

Perhaps CCUAL referred to the kris in the link he provided - it's indeed a 29 Luk blade, like Thilo's.

CCUAL · 25th March 2018, 03:21 AM

Hello Dave, how are you? You were the one that shown me how to count the luks during the Pasadena knife show years back, may be I had forgotten how to count it. Here is the photo.

Thanks Gustav.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustav

Thank you all again!

Perhaps CCUAL referred to the kris in the link he provided - it's indeed a 29 Luk blade, like Thilo's.

David · 25th March 2018, 04:58 AM

I think Dave thought you were referring to the original posted blade. He may not have followed your link. The one you just posted (also in your link) does indeed seem to be 29 luk. A thing of beauty as well.

DaveS · 25th March 2018, 06:18 AM

Yes Chris, i was referring to the posters original pictures. I like your collection. Some really classic pieces. I especially like the Panabas. Don't see very many around that good...........Dave.

David · 25th March 2018, 06:21 AM

Yes, the entire grouping Chris shows here is outstanding!

CCUAL · 25th March 2018, 08:36 AM

Sorry guys, but this weren't mine.

Spunjer · 27th March 2018, 11:04 PM

late for the party, but yeah, that's a great catch!!
congrats!

Gustav · 28th March 2018, 09:33 AM

Ron, thank you!

20th March 2018, 02:57 PM	#1
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	Maguindanao 25 Luk Kris Dear All, nothing very refined, nevertheless a nice blade (55,5 cm) of its kind, particularly the subtle tapering to the tip. About 40% of outer binding on handle is gone. The quite fine inner binding isn't a repair, it goes under the outer and can be seen at some places. An interesting feature is the inserted Jalen/Tjalen (that's how it's called in Keris terminology, sorry). The pommel is not small. Comments are welcome! Attached Images

21st March 2018, 03:34 AM	#8
CCUAL Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 76	29 luks I think this is 29? if i count the luks correctly. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=moro+kris Last edited by CCUAL; 21st March 2018 at 04:39 AM.

24th March 2018, 05:40 AM	#11
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	# of luks Chris: Nope. 25 waves all the way........Dave.

25th March 2018, 06:18 AM	#15
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	25 luk kris Yes Chris, i was referring to the posters original pictures. I like your collection. Some really classic pieces. I especially like the Panabas. Don't see very many around that good...........Dave.

20th March 2018, 06:08 PM	#2
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Sweet!

20th March 2018, 09:21 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,788	Very, very nice! Are you going to polish and etch the blade? Regards, Detlef

20th March 2018, 09:58 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	WOW That is one very nice kris you have acquired. Not sure what you might find with a polish and etch, but it would be nice to find out. Congratulation on such a great find. Best, Robert

20th March 2018, 11:28 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,226	Nice - lots of luks

21st March 2018, 02:43 AM	#6
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	Thank you, gentlemen! Except for some spots of more or less active rust I will leave it as it is. It will look better with the battered handle as it is. No expectations of some special welding miracles, these pieces usually have the most simple construction, like Thilos kris: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=lukky or a kris Stefan sold a while ago: http://www.ashokaarts.com/shop/old-m...o-philippines- Actually very few of these many Luk pieces are upper class, the most notable exception being: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...guindanao+kris I would be interested in your opinions, why such pieces with an exaggerated number of Luk did appear at all.

23rd March 2018, 03:57 PM	#9
F. de Luzon Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 184	Congratulations, what a great find! Fernando

24th March 2018, 12:22 PM	#12
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	Thank you all again! Perhaps CCUAL referred to the kris in the link he provided - it's indeed a 29 Luk blade, like Thilo's.

25th March 2018, 04:58 AM	#14
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	I think Dave thought you were referring to the original posted blade. He may not have followed your link. The one you just posted (also in your link) does indeed seem to be 29 luk. A thing of beauty as well.

25th March 2018, 06:21 AM	#16
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,127	Yes, the entire grouping Chris shows here is outstanding!

25th March 2018, 08:36 AM	#17
CCUAL Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 76	Sorry guys, but this weren't mine.

27th March 2018, 11:04 PM	#18
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	late for the party, but yeah, that's a great catch!! congrats!

28th March 2018, 09:33 AM	#19
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,249	Ron, thank you!