Information on Kindjal/Quaddara please

BBJW · 1st January 2008, 09:48 PM

Any information that can be provided on this piece would be greatly appreciated. Especially the maker's mark. Thank you.

Cheers
bbjw

Jim McDougall · 5th January 2008, 05:02 AM

It seems like a while since one of these has been posted, and I'm really surprised that Ariel hasn't responded as weapons of Caucasian and Transcaucasian regions are one of his key fields of interest.
This seems to me a very nice interpretation of the quaddara's from either Azerbijian or Armenia, and not partcularly old. The mark, and specifically its location above the fullers, seems also interpretative of the six pointed Star of Solomon. It seems like this is fairly commonly seen on these, and I dont believe it is a makers mark.
Kindjhals are actually a double edged weapon. For a moment I thought this was a bebut, but apparantly the bebut blade, similarly shaped is actually slightly curved.
I look forward to other observations, and hope those more familiar with these might respond.

All best regards,
Jim

ariel · 31st January 2008, 12:53 PM

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=ashura
This is an older thread by Kirill: the most cogent and subtle discussion of the origins of Qaddara.
The one in question in this thread looks newer to me and Iranian in origin, rather than Caucasian. I cannot ID the mark, unfortunately; it likely holds the key. However, the configuration of the fullers and the metal decorations of the handle push me to the "Iranian" side of the Arax River.

ariel · 1st February 2008, 06:22 PM

Just ended
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=008
Very similar, isn't it?

1st January 2008, 09:48 PM	#1
BBJW Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Idaho, USA Posts: 228	Information on Kindjal/Quaddara please Any information that can be provided on this piece would be greatly appreciated. Especially the maker's mark. Thank you. Cheers bbjw Attached Images

5th January 2008, 05:02 AM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,943	It seems like a while since one of these has been posted, and I'm really surprised that Ariel hasn't responded as weapons of Caucasian and Transcaucasian regions are one of his key fields of interest. This seems to me a very nice interpretation of the quaddara's from either Azerbijian or Armenia, and not partcularly old. The mark, and specifically its location above the fullers, seems also interpretative of the six pointed Star of Solomon. It seems like this is fairly commonly seen on these, and I dont believe it is a makers mark. Kindjhals are actually a double edged weapon. For a moment I thought this was a bebut, but apparantly the bebut blade, similarly shaped is actually slightly curved. I look forward to other observations, and hope those more familiar with these might respond. All best regards, Jim

31st January 2008, 12:53 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=ashura This is an older thread by Kirill: the most cogent and subtle discussion of the origins of Qaddara. The one in question in this thread looks newer to me and Iranian in origin, rather than Caucasian. I cannot ID the mark, unfortunately; it likely holds the key. However, the configuration of the fullers and the metal decorations of the handle push me to the "Iranian" side of the Arax River.

1st February 2008, 06:22 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Just ended http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=008 Very similar, isn't it?