A Kukri for Comments

derek · 10th April 2005, 01:28 AM

I recently got this kukri with a really well done wooden scabbard. the details are sweet. It even has "leather" straps carved into it. The knife is 17" OAL and has some nice brass between the tang and scales. I've seen one other with a quality wooden scabbard on JP's site.

-d

Berkley · 10th April 2005, 02:29 AM

A very handsome scabbard, with a level of workmanship quite superior to the rather crude "village" character of most wooden kukri scabbards I have seen. The chiruwa-style horn handle is quite unusual for a wooden scabbard piece, and also appears to be of a high level of craftsmanship, especially the carved detail incised into the tang. Would love to see a picture of the blade.

derek · 10th April 2005, 02:52 AM

Forgot to post the blade in the first place:

inveterate · 10th April 2005, 05:30 AM

A nice "Sirupate" Derek. Very good work on the scabbard. a nice pick up.
Rod Allen

Berkley · 10th April 2005, 04:27 PM

Rod,
I have read that "The Sirupate is based on the siru leaf found in Eastern Nepal." I have been unable to locate any reference to the siru plant. Do you have any idea what sort of bush, tree, etc. it is, or where I might look for pictures or decriptions? Thanks,
Berk

BTW, I completely agree with your description of Derek's sirupate as "a nice pick up". Unlike the usual wood scabbard (which seems to be the product of necessity and poverty where leather is scarce or expensive), the choice of wood here seems to be for the purpose of showing off the woodcarver's skill in matching the level of craftsmanship shown by the knife itself.

inveterate · 11th April 2005, 06:13 AM

Berkely, have you tried a Google on Sirupate? Rod

inveterate · 11th April 2005, 07:37 AM

Berk,Check out Imperata Arundinacia with a google search, heaps of info on the plant under this,its Latin Name. Cheers Rod

Berkley · 11th April 2005, 06:08 PM

Rod,
As Uncle Bill always said, "Thanks for good help".
Berk

tom hyle · 11th April 2005, 07:27 PM

Of course, most kukuri sheaths are wooden, but just hide-covered.

sirupate · 14th April 2005, 06:51 PM

Hello Derek,

Very nice eklohat siupate with a very nicely done chirawal paro Bendh (handle). A Beautifuly carved dap, definately done for a wealthy Nepali.
The sirupate seems to originate from the Limbu tribe in Eastern Nepal, and is now widely used all over Nepal.

Cheers Simon

spiral · 14th April 2005, 07:02 PM

Lovely kukri Derek, The only one I have ever seen with {Brass?} liners to protect the tang from the rust that can be sometimes caused by the horn or woods moisture absorbing properties.

Lovely scabbard indeed!

Far too posh for a villager!

Nice find!

Spiral

RobT · 15th April 2005, 04:36 AM

That's the best looking split hilt kukri I have ever seen. Could I get a few translations for sirupate's post? What is eklohat? I assume the "pate" part of surupate means leaf as in sosun pata? What is paro bendh? Is dap another word for cho? Thanks to any and all for the help.
Sincerely,
RobT

sirupate · 15th April 2005, 06:17 PM

Hello Rob,

Eklohat means singlehanded, paro means tang, bendh refers to the handle and dap is the scabbard.

Hope that is of help

Cheers Simon

Conogre · 17th April 2005, 08:18 AM

Is or will all of that information be recorded in the Kukri site as it developes?
I imediately started to grab a pencil and then realized I'd lose it in 7-8 seconds....strong pain medications can be extremely discouraging at times!

Mike

RobT · 18th April 2005, 01:13 AM

Simon, thanks very much for the kukri translations. Could I trouble you a bit further to respond to some questions engendered by your answers? Of what use is the term eklohat (single handed) when referring to kukri? I thought all kukri were single handed. Does the term chirawal paro bendh translate literally as tang split hilt and could you also correctly use panna batta paro bendh? Many thanks,
RobT

spiral · 18th April 2005, 01:29 AM

Rob, The Myth of the Hanshee & the Origin of kukri threads on this forum should explain about the one & a half hand & double hand kukris. {the Hatrayadha Sirupate & Doharohat Sirupate respectivly, formely inaccuratly known as Hanshee.}

Spiral

Ferguson · 23rd April 2005, 09:24 PM

Nothing at all similar to the quality of Dereks very fine piece, but I like this nice little kukuri. It's 14 3/4" long, and has seen much use. Spine is 5/16" thick. Handle is small, for Nepali hands, so it fits me well.

Steve

Berkley · 25th April 2005, 12:31 AM

Ferguson,
I'm quite partial to these wooden-scabbard village kukris, as they tend to be very functional as well as representing the best sort of folk art. Yours has a lovely patina on the handle and scabbard, likely indicative of both use and age. Like most of these products of small village smithies , the blade is not finely polished but still retains much of the scale from its forging.
You might enjoy checking out the new International Kukri Research & Historical Society forum.
Thanks for posting the excellent photos.
Berkley

Ferguson · 25th April 2005, 01:05 AM

Thanks Berkley!

I think you'll remember this one, my favorite modern-made khukuri, the "Berk Special" Dui Chirra.

Steve

10th April 2005, 01:28 AM	#1
derek Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 215	A Kukri for Comments I recently got this kukri with a really well done wooden scabbard. the details are sweet. It even has "leather" straps carved into it. The knife is 17" OAL and has some nice brass between the tang and scales. I've seen one other with a quality wooden scabbard on JP's site. -d

10th April 2005, 04:27 PM	#5
Berkley Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austin, Texas USA Posts: 257	Question about Nepalese flora & kukri nomenclature Rod, I have read that "The Sirupate is based on the siru leaf found in Eastern Nepal." I have been unable to locate any reference to the siru plant. Do you have any idea what sort of bush, tree, etc. it is, or where I might look for pictures or decriptions? Thanks, Berk BTW, I completely agree with your description of Derek's sirupate as "a nice pick up". Unlike the usual wood scabbard (which seems to be the product of necessity and poverty where leather is scarce or expensive), the choice of wood here seems to be for the purpose of showing off the woodcarver's skill in matching the level of craftsmanship shown by the knife itself.

14th April 2005, 07:02 PM	#11
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Lovely kukri Derek, The only one I have ever seen with {Brass?} liners to protect the tang from the rust that can be sometimes caused by the horn or woods moisture absorbing properties. Lovely scabbard indeed! Far too posh for a villager! Nice find! Spiral Last edited by spiral; 14th April 2005 at 07:28 PM.

15th April 2005, 04:36 AM	#12
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 488	a need to come to terms That's the best looking split hilt kukri I have ever seen. Could I get a few translations for sirupate's post? What is eklohat? I assume the "pate" part of surupate means leaf as in sosun pata? What is paro bendh? Is dap another word for cho? Thanks to any and all for the help. Sincerely, RobT

18th April 2005, 01:13 AM	#15
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 488	Thanks for translations Simon, thanks very much for the kukri translations. Could I trouble you a bit further to respond to some questions engendered by your answers? Of what use is the term eklohat (single handed) when referring to kukri? I thought all kukri were single handed. Does the term chirawal paro bendh translate literally as tang split hilt and could you also correctly use panna batta paro bendh? Many thanks, RobT

10th April 2005, 02:29 AM	#2
Berkley Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austin, Texas USA Posts: 257	A very handsome scabbard, with a level of workmanship quite superior to the rather crude "village" character of most wooden kukri scabbards I have seen. The chiruwa-style horn handle is quite unusual for a wooden scabbard piece, and also appears to be of a high level of craftsmanship, especially the carved detail incised into the tang. Would love to see a picture of the blade.

10th April 2005, 02:52 AM	#3
derek Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 215	Forgot to post the blade in the first place:

10th April 2005, 05:30 AM	#4
inveterate Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 58	A nice "Sirupate" Derek. Very good work on the scabbard. a nice pick up. Rod Allen

11th April 2005, 06:13 AM	#6
inveterate Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 58	Berkely, have you tried a Google on Sirupate? Rod

11th April 2005, 07:37 AM	#7
inveterate Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 58	Berk,Check out Imperata Arundinacia with a google search, heaps of info on the plant under this,its Latin Name. Cheers Rod

11th April 2005, 06:08 PM	#8
Berkley Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austin, Texas USA Posts: 257	Rod, As Uncle Bill always said, "Thanks for good help". Berk

11th April 2005, 07:27 PM	#9
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Of course, most kukuri sheaths are wooden, but just hide-covered.

14th April 2005, 06:51 PM	#10
sirupate Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 373	Hello Derek, Very nice eklohat siupate with a very nicely done chirawal paro Bendh (handle). A Beautifuly carved dap, definately done for a wealthy Nepali. The sirupate seems to originate from the Limbu tribe in Eastern Nepal, and is now widely used all over Nepal. Cheers Simon

15th April 2005, 06:17 PM	#13
sirupate Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: England Posts: 373	Hello Rob, Eklohat means singlehanded, paro means tang, bendh refers to the handle and dap is the scabbard. Hope that is of help Cheers Simon

17th April 2005, 08:18 AM	#14
Conogre Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 371	Is or will all of that information be recorded in the Kukri site as it developes? I imediately started to grab a pencil and then realized I'd lose it in 7-8 seconds....strong pain medications can be extremely discouraging at times! Mike

18th April 2005, 01:29 AM	#16
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Rob, The Myth of the Hanshee & the Origin of kukri threads on this forum should explain about the one & a half hand & double hand kukris. {the Hatrayadha Sirupate & Doharohat Sirupate respectivly, formely inaccuratly known as Hanshee.} Spiral

23rd April 2005, 09:24 PM	#17
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Nothing at all similar to the quality of Dereks very fine piece, but I like this nice little kukuri. It's 14 3/4" long, and has seen much use. Spine is 5/16" thick. Handle is small, for Nepali hands, so it fits me well. Steve Attached Images

25th April 2005, 12:31 AM	#18
Berkley Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Austin, Texas USA Posts: 257	Ferguson, I'm quite partial to these wooden-scabbard village kukris, as they tend to be very functional as well as representing the best sort of folk art. Yours has a lovely patina on the handle and scabbard, likely indicative of both use and age. Like most of these products of small village smithies , the blade is not finely polished but still retains much of the scale from its forging. You might enjoy checking out the new International Kukri Research & Historical Society forum. Thanks for posting the excellent photos. Berkley

25th April 2005, 01:05 AM	#19
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Thanks Berkley! I think you'll remember this one, my favorite modern-made khukuri, the "Berk Special" Dui Chirra. Steve Attached Images