mandau / borneo blade / any suggestions ?

asomotif · 12th November 2008, 11:16 PM

I recently bought this in a shop with militairy antiques.
No provenance, no info.

Both me and the seller think it is borneo, but without an original handle or scabbard it makes me wonder what it looked like before.

Anyone who has a similar blade or picture of such a blade ?

Length of the blade is 47 cms without the handle.
The protruding piece at the base is 3 cms

VANDOO · 13th November 2008, 01:09 AM

I WOULD NOT CALL THIS A MANDAU i AM SURE IT IS SOMETHING ELSE. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T KNOW WHAT BUT I SUSPECT THE MEMBERS WHO SPECIALIZE IN THESE WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.
IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY WELL MADE OLD BLADE AND COULD BE FROM BORNEO, MALAYSIA OR INDONESIA

A VERY NICE BLADE PERHAPS YOU CAN FIND A PROPER HANDLE AND SCABBARD FOR IT. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND SOME INFO IN VAN ZONNEVELD'S, TRADITIONAL WEAPONS BOOK. CONGRADULATIONS

Mytribalworld · 13th November 2008, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

I recently bought this in a shop with militairy antiques.
No provenance, no info.

Both me and the seller think it is borneo, but without an original handle or scabbard it makes me wonder what it looked like before.

Anyone who has a similar blade or picture of such a blade ?

Length of the blade is 47 cms without the handle.
The protruding piece at the base is 3 cms

It looks to me like a modified blade of a sikin pasangan.
probably reshaped into Batak blade ?
It looks like a mix between sikin and kalasan.

Dajak · 13th November 2008, 05:34 AM

It Looks to me that they try to imitate an kris below the Handle

Ben

kai · 13th November 2008, 08:03 AM

Hello Willem,

Seems to be an Pedang (type 3 in AvZ) blade. Ethnic Malay?

Regards,
Kai

VVV · 13th November 2008, 11:45 PM

I also think it's from Sumatra and has a replaced handle.
Really strange protrusion? Usually it looks more like the pedang III, like Kai indicated.

Michael

asomotif · 14th November 2008, 11:41 PM

Thanks all for the expertise.
Sumatran blade. restoring (other hilt)is not really helpfull I think.

Best regards,
Willem

asomotif · 28th November 2008, 12:18 AM

2 more pics of the protrusion

12th November 2008, 11:16 PM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	mandau / borneo blade / any suggestions ? I recently bought this in a shop with militairy antiques. No provenance, no info. Both me and the seller think it is borneo, but without an original handle or scabbard it makes me wonder what it looked like before. Anyone who has a similar blade or picture of such a blade ? Length of the blade is 47 cms without the handle. The protruding piece at the base is 3 cms Attached Images

28th November 2008, 12:18 AM	#8
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	2 more pics of the protrusion 2 more pics of the protrusion Attached Images

13th November 2008, 01:09 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I WOULD NOT CALL THIS A MANDAU i AM SURE IT IS SOMETHING ELSE. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T KNOW WHAT BUT I SUSPECT THE MEMBERS WHO SPECIALIZE IN THESE WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT IT IS. IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY WELL MADE OLD BLADE AND COULD BE FROM BORNEO, MALAYSIA OR INDONESIA A VERY NICE BLADE PERHAPS YOU CAN FIND A PROPER HANDLE AND SCABBARD FOR IT. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND SOME INFO IN VAN ZONNEVELD'S, TRADITIONAL WEAPONS BOOK. CONGRADULATIONS

13th November 2008, 05:34 AM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	It Looks to me that they try to imitate an kris below the Handle Ben

13th November 2008, 08:03 AM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Hello Willem, Seems to be an Pedang (type 3 in AvZ) blade. Ethnic Malay? Regards, Kai

13th November 2008, 11:45 PM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	I also think it's from Sumatra and has a replaced handle. Really strange protrusion? Usually it looks more like the pedang III, like Kai indicated. Michael

14th November 2008, 11:41 PM	#7
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Thanks all for the expertise. Sumatran blade. restoring (other hilt)is not really helpfull I think. Best regards, Willem