Naval Cutlass?

trenchwarfare · 2nd December 2014, 11:07 PM

Mods: I have exhausted every avenue of western, and or European ID on this weapon. I bought it in hopes that it may be an unknown Confederate variant. The majority believe it to be Mexican, or Spanish Colonial. Maybe even Filippino. Please don't move this thread, till a little info is gathered. Thanks. Well, as stated, whatizzit? The hilt contains all the attributes of a Confederate "Dog River" cavalry sword. However, the applied thumb rest, blade shape, and all-leather scabbard are a mystery. With the "D" rings on the scabbard, I assume it was meant to be worn on the back, not belt. Blade is 27 1/2" long, 1 5/8" wide. Any ideas?

Robert · 3rd December 2014, 12:49 AM

Well, while I cannot tell you where for sure this is from that scabbard screams Mexico to me. Hopefully others with more knowledge will be here soon with more information than I can offer.

Best,
Robert

Shakethetrees · 3rd December 2014, 06:40 PM

I suspect it's of Spanish lineage, Central or South American. The scabbard and the thumb rest are giveaways, and the blade resembles a piece I had a while back.

spiral · 3rd December 2014, 10:50 PM

Fascinating piece!

Not remotely my knowledge base.

I've never seen the lower hanger so low before on anything... Ill watch this thread with intrust.

Looks an interesting piece.

trenchwarfare · 4th December 2014, 12:58 AM

Thanks for the input. Hopefully, we can get to the bottom of this. The thumb rest is not only found on Spanish swords. They are also on Italian, Portuguese, British Pattern 1908, and, the US "Patton" sword.

carlos · 4th December 2014, 09:29 AM

When I have seen pictures my first impression was Mexican too. I have seen anothers pieces with this type of sheath.
Carlos

2nd December 2014, 11:07 PM	#1
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Naval Cutlass? Mods: I have exhausted every avenue of western, and or European ID on this weapon. I bought it in hopes that it may be an unknown Confederate variant. The majority believe it to be Mexican, or Spanish Colonial. Maybe even Filippino. Please don't move this thread, till a little info is gathered. Thanks. Well, as stated, whatizzit? The hilt contains all the attributes of a Confederate "Dog River" cavalry sword. However, the applied thumb rest, blade shape, and all-leather scabbard are a mystery. With the "D" rings on the scabbard, I assume it was meant to be worn on the back, not belt. Blade is 27 1/2" long, 1 5/8" wide. Any ideas? Attached Images

3rd December 2014, 12:49 AM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Well, while I cannot tell you where for sure this is from that scabbard screams Mexico to me. Hopefully others with more knowledge will be here soon with more information than I can offer. Best, Robert

3rd December 2014, 06:40 PM	#3
Shakethetrees Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 363	I suspect it's of Spanish lineage, Central or South American. The scabbard and the thumb rest are giveaways, and the blade resembles a piece I had a while back.

3rd December 2014, 10:50 PM	#4
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Fascinating piece! Not remotely my knowledge base. I've never seen the lower hanger so low before on anything... Ill watch this thread with intrust. Looks an interesting piece.

4th December 2014, 12:58 AM	#5
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Thanks for the input. Hopefully, we can get to the bottom of this. The thumb rest is not only found on Spanish swords. They are also on Italian, Portuguese, British Pattern 1908, and, the US "Patton" sword.

4th December 2014, 09:29 AM	#6
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 738	When I have seen pictures my first impression was Mexican too. I have seen anothers pieces with this type of sheath. Carlos